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Re: Soldering Desoldering Station Recommendations
« Reply #30 on: September 15, 2009, 06:26:19 PM »
these 2 devices have been great.
when i go out to repair a pin they come with me in my brief case style tool box.
i have never had to change a handle or element and to get 11 years out of a soldering iron is pretty good in my books.
i haven't even changed the sleeve which holds the tips on.
i dont know if this model is still available but if it is and its a genuine hakko and if you are after an iron that will be around for years then buy one of these.
i rate the 936 a 10 out of 10.

as far as the denon SC7000Z goes its got great suction. the only down fall is if you dont let it heat up properly ( 5 mins ) then you may have a problem with the solder going cold at the tool end of the tip and blocking the hole. if this happens just turn up the heat for a while and use the wire probes that are supplied with it to unblock it.
it has two fillters, one in the back of the collection chamber and one in the main unit which is easy to change with out pulling it apart.
the second filter which is quite small is the same as a cigarette filter and avilable for about $1 for 50.
the main filter is supplied with the collection chamber, i cant remember what the last one cost me as it was a couple of years ago.
the SC7000Z has an adjustable tempreture.
i would give the denon about a 9 out of 10 due to the problem with the solder blockage.
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Re: Soldering Desoldering Station Recommendations
« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2009, 04:04:41 AM »
I'm getting in on this a little late.
I figured I'd chime in with a couple points.

I didn't get a Aoyue station, but rather bought a used Hakko off eBay. It was just the "central headquarters" though and didn't have any wands or wires. I took a chance and hoped that I could find this stuff over a future span of time. The Hakko wands are nice I know, but even those are pretty high. I did run across a site here in the US that sells Aoyue stuff including parts. I bought two soldering wands and one desoldering gun. After I got to handle them I think they do have a good feel and are almost identical to Hakko. Pretty good clone job.

However, it didn't have the same connector, so in the process of dissecting to fix that I found that there wasn't any temperature sensors in either the soldering or desoldering heater elements! This may have been an odd batch or something and yours may be better, but it might be worth checking out just so you know what you're working with.

The good news is that Genuine Hakko heating elements fit both the soldering and desoldering guns OK, though I think I had to buy a couple other tip parts on the desoldering gun for it to work right due to a variation in length. Still, those parts weren't too expensive even from Hakko. IMPORTANT NOTE though: If you have an Aoyue rig, buying Hakko parts likely won't do you any good. I had to buy Hakko elements so it would work with my Hakko base station and fortunately it fit the Aoyue handles.

Otherwise the Aoyue stuff seems well made especially for the price. For a hobbyist I can't see a guy spending north of $1K for a soldering rig unless you are pretty wealthy and money doesn't matter. For a hobbyist I think Aoyue stuff is a pretty decent solution IMO. I have a Hakko now and it IS really sweet, but it took a fair bit of chasing things down to put it together.

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Re: Soldering Desoldering Station Recommendations
« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2009, 11:31:14 PM »

I'm really getting the hang of this equipment, and so far, I've done repairs to around a dozen boards, and it has always done the job. NO solder pads burnt off the boards, or any other damage. No blockages or malfunctions.

so far - I've got to say that I'm really pleased with this unit.

I hope to test it on a really fragile and difficult board like a Bally -32 MPU.

Really impressed thus far  ^^^
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Re: Soldering Desoldering Station Recommendations
« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2009, 01:59:56 AM »
good to hear.
its amazing how much easier the job is when you have the right tools.
you then think "why didn't i buy one of these years ago, if only i knew"
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Re: Soldering Desoldering Station Recommendations
« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2009, 10:29:45 AM »
good to hear.
its amazing how much easier the job is when you have the right tools.
you then think "why didn't i buy one of these years ago, if only i knew"

cost prohibitive for a hobbyist like myself to buy a Hakko, so even though I needed one - it was out of reach.

But I agree - I don't know why I waited so long to look for an alternative - thanks Jacob  ^^^
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Re: Soldering Desoldering Station Recommendations
« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2009, 12:17:29 PM »
We do a LOT of design and construction work. Over the years I have had just about every type of iron and desoldering gizmo made! I do like Hakko but I also used to like Weller stations - except the parts for them were stupidly expensive - it was often cheaper to buy a new station rather than an element! Hakko is good but overpriced.

In the pics below you can see my wife prefers the Hakko but I use a Chinese clone called a 'Sword'. Apart from having to 5 minute epoxy the handle to the barrel I have thrashed it for two years now almost daily and I paid $18 for the entire station in Shenzhen! Hard to beat that!

I have had most desoldering devices and the MOST USELESS one of all was a very expensive Hakko. I sold it to a mate for half what I paid for it after a month - I just hated it. The best thing I have found is the iron shown below with a built-in manual desolder pump. It works VERY WELL and I found it in a little electronic tool shop in Guangzhou for about $25. It is without doubt the best desolder device I have used.

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« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2009, 12:19:10 PM »
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Re: Soldering Desoldering Station Recommendations
« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2010, 12:00:08 PM »
Ludatronics has the 701 for sale again for $235 + postage.
Price drop probably due to the Aussie dollar .
I'm looking at purchasing one next week should i be buying extra tips and attahments or are the ones that come with it suitable?
Any info much appreciated

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Re: Soldering Desoldering Station Recommendations
« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2010, 12:28:49 PM »
Ludatronics has the 701 for sale again for $235 + postage.
Price drop probably due to the Aussie dollar .
I'm looking at purchasing one next week should i be buying extra tips and attahments or are the ones that come with it suitable?
Any info much appreciated

I just purchased the station - everything came with it - a spare filter, cleaning tools and a couple of desoldering tips of various sizes.
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Re: Soldering Desoldering Station Recommendations
« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2010, 12:39:22 PM »
Great, will put the order through sounds like a great deal

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Re: Soldering Desoldering Station Recommendations
« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2010, 11:37:54 PM »
Agree with Mike's comments on Weller.

My 24v WTCPT soldering station blew the element yesterday. (I hate that big tranny on a sys80 power supply - what a bitch to get out!)

For nearly the same price as the Weller element - I went to Jaycar today and got their Duratech TS1560 station...

Nice fine needle tip, temp adjustable - not bad for $60...
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Re: Soldering Desoldering Station Recommendations
« Reply #41 on: February 16, 2010, 10:49:10 PM »
The 701+ arrived today early days but so far very happy with its performance .
Only charged $10 delivery to Sydney.

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Re: Soldering Desoldering Station Recommendations
« Reply #42 on: February 16, 2010, 10:59:48 PM »

Mine is still going strong - Very pleased with it !
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