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Gottlieb Centigrade 37 problem
« on: September 10, 2011, 10:11:19 AM »
Hi, I just joined and this is my first post. I have a Gottlieb Centigrade 37 that dosnt work and hope someone can point me in the right direction. When you turn the machine on it constantly re-sets the drop targets. The wheel in the lower half of the cabinet which I presume is called the re-set wheel just spins constantly.

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Re: Gottlieb Centigrade 37 problem
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2011, 12:13:10 PM »

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The score motor is continually turning, and the drop targets are resetting because the game is waiting for an event to complete it's cycle. Most commonly, it is a score reel not reaching zero. That's the first place I'd look.
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Re: Gottlieb Centigrade 37 problem
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2011, 01:50:45 PM »
Also:


1960s & 1970s Gottlieb Start-Up Sequence.
Games with score reels.
Inserting a coin or pressing the coin door start button (Gottlieb calls this the "replay" button) activates the "S" (start) relay. The start relay will lock on from its own switch and a score motor switch.
The "S" relay will energize the main hold relay to illuminate the game (if this is the first game after power-on).
The "S" relay will start the score motor running.
The "S" relay and the score motor increment the total play meter.
The "SB" relay (the secondary start relay) is activated through the score motor. The "SB" relay energizes the reset relays ("Z1" and "Z2"). If a single or two player game, there may be only a "Z" relay.
The "Z2" relay will reset the player 3 and 4 score reels to zero through the score relays (4 player games only). The "Z1" or "Z" relay will reset the player 1 (and player 2 if present) score reels to zero through the score relays.
The "SB" relay resets the player unit through the score motor.
The "U" relay resets the reset bank (or Ax, Bx, relays on 1975 and later multi-player games and Ax on single players) through the score motor. It also resets the bonus unit or drop target banks (if the game has these).
On multi-player games, inserting more coins or pressing the coin door start button activates the "PBx" relay, through the score motor. The "x" represents the player number (from two to four).
If the ball is in the outhole, the "O" relay activates. The "O" relay, through the score motor and a switch on relay "XB", will kick the ball to the shooter lane. Note: the "O" relay will not activate unless the bonus unit (if the game has one) is reset to zero (there is a bonus unit zero position switch).
When the ball re-enters the outhole after game play, the "P" relay kicks the ball back to the shooter lane. Switches on the "XB", "ZB", "P" relays and some score motor switches advances the player unit (if present) and player relays ("PBx").

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Re: Gottlieb Centigrade 37 problem
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2011, 02:13:30 PM »
If all the score reels are resetting to 0 when you start a game , then the next thing to check is if the bous unit (the thermometer on the backglass) is also resetting to 0.

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Re: Gottlieb Centigrade 37 problem
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2011, 03:14:18 PM »
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Re: Gottlieb Centigrade 37 problem
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2011, 03:41:02 PM »
If all the score reels are resetting to 0 when you start a game , then the next thing to check is if the bous unit (the thermometer on the backglass) is also resetting to 0.

Wish I had one of these games !!!


Have a minty Bg.. need a game to put it in

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Re: Gottlieb Centigrade 37 problem
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2011, 04:39:59 PM »
Welcome to Aussie Pinball and what a great game.

    Worth checking out the Pinball Training 1on1 section http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?board=57.0 heaps of threads on how to rebuild score units stepper units and most parts for this game

Stepper Units
http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?topic=1707.0s

Score unit
http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?topic=1710.0

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Re: Gottlieb Centigrade 37 problem
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2011, 10:15:24 AM »
Thanks for replys, I will try your ideas today and let you know how I go.
John

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Re: Gottlieb Centigrade 37 problem
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2011, 06:36:44 PM »
Got the machine going today. It had a sticky pivot in the credit unit. Game is working ok but the score reel for the 1000s wont work. I pulled the reals apart and cleaned them so I will have to take another look. Thanks again for your replys.

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Re: Gottlieb Centigrade 37 problem
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2011, 06:44:28 PM »
Make sure that when the 100 reel reaches 9 it pushes the very top leaf switch closed... these are often misaligned or so dirty that it acts as an open switch.
Without the previous reel registering 9.. then next will do nothing