Gorgar tidy up

[Strangeways]

I have seen Nifti do nasty damage to inserts and raise them and fog them.
Another pin restorer up in Qld was using it & had problems with it.

IF u get all of it off it's not an issue but if it runs into a insert it can be a big problem.

Best product I clean my 50 something playfields with are Baby Bum Wipes.
Why ? They can clean the nastiest shit off and never hurt a delicate baby's skin so I know it will never hurt my playfields. Lol
Also, when the baby wipe stops turning anything other than stark white, you know the playfield n any hardware is now very clean. Sometimes simple for cleaning is best.
After using Mills Wax and the other brands of polish, I always use the baby bum wipes to get any left over polish residues because those polishes are full of petro chemicals.
They can't be good for plastic or wood regardless of what people think or what the bottle says.
Just my opinion but I find best to be safe than sorry. Playfields are too fragile to risk.
Hope the baby bum wipes help anyone who is interested.

Clearly, a "restorer" that has been working on pinballs for 5 minutes.

One of my earliest memories was cleaning a WMS "Ding Dong". Would have been early 70's. The playfield was stripped and cleaned with Nifti and polished with Mr Sheen. This was 40 years ago. That machine is still in exceptional condition. I have been using Nifti on my personal games for 20 years. There is no other cleaner on the market that is even close. I've even used the USA "Mean Green" and is is not as good as Nifti. All APR restored machines are initially cleaned with Nifti. As on many of our restoration threads, a clean rag sprayed with Nifti will clean the playfield better than any product we have used. Hundreds of machines over 50 years - not one single issue.

In 40 years of working with pinballs, I've never seen a cleaning product "fog" an insert. The only way an insert can raise is if force is used against it, or the glue is melted by years of hot #44 globes. I can't see how any liquid can raise an insert.

I think the "restorer" needs to find a new vocation !

[Crashramp]

Gorgar's such a cool game. Love to see some pictures of the tidy up if you get a chance Spacejam.

Methods i have used ;

1- is it ok to use mill wax on a mylared playfield - Never used it on a playfield (mylar or not).

What do you generally use on your playfield's Nino? I normally use Millwax but interested to know if there are any negatives to this and if you had any recommendations for playfield care?

I've never used Mills Wax. We do sell equal numbers of Mills Wax and Novus 2. I use Novus 2. For restoration work where we strip the entire playfield, we use a combination of cleaners (Nifti, Novus 2) and then we polish the playfield (Treasurecove) and then finally use paste wax.

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 Thanks Nino, great info. 

[pinsanity]

+1 to Strangeways.

Williams dispelled that harsh chemicals myth 25 years ago with extensive in house testing. Plus with the advancement of clearcoating during the 1990's has made the idea of any chemical damage minimal to non existent.

Baby wipes are useful only for the "end user" (pardon the pun) when someone else has already done 99% of the real cleaning beforehand with proper cleaning agents like Nifti.

[pinnies4me]

The only comment I have on Nifti is it seems to leave a bit of a residue, but as it is the very first of a number of processes in the cleaning regime, that is not really a problem.

I'd actually be interested if anyone could identify what is actually *in* Nifty?

[Strangeways]

The only comment I have on Nifti is it seems to leave a bit of a residue, but as it is the very first of a number of processes in the cleaning regime, that is not really a problem.

I'd actually be interested if anyone could identify what is actually *in* Nifty?

Front line = Nifti
Second = Novus 3 or Nifti - I always use Nifti
Third = Novus 2 or Mills Wax. There is another product called Wildcat that was used in the "old days" - but I've never used it.
Treasurecove or 3M compound polishing kit
Paste Wax (Mother's / Meguiars)

The golden rule with any product is NEVER EVER spray (liquids) directly on the playfield - and keep water based products well away.

[robm]

Agree. Love Nifty.....sometimes my wife brings home 10 or 15 bottles if its available at Coles as sometimes they don't have it on the shelf.  She's a keeper!