Author Topic: globes can it be so?  (Read 1581 times)

0 Members and 5 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline pinball god

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • ******
  • High Score Initials:
  • Forum Posts:
  • Melbourne
  • Metallica is here to stay
globes can it be so?
« on: July 13, 2015, 08:07:39 PM »
On my space invaders I am finding I always have a controlled light out. My 60k globe was blown, replaced it and a day or two later an invader light is dead. I seem to believe that it seems to blow a globe and then function fine. Is this simply coincidence. I did replace most if not all globe holders with new on this machine
Still loving my Metallica Premium

Offline Strangeways

  • Pinball Restoration is my passion
  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+9)
  • *****
  • High Score Initials:
  • Forum Posts:
  • Melbourne
  • ABN 68 283 634 461
    • Ride The Boney Beast
Re: globes can it be so?
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2015, 10:13:10 PM »
When you rewired in the new sockets, did you file the area you soldered the return wire ? Very common problem, and it will cause intermittent lamp issues.
Aussie Pinball - Proud to be Australia's Premier Pinball Forum

http://www.australianpinballrestorations.com.au/

http://www.rtbb.com.au/catalog/

We carry the largest range of NEW Ramps in Australia

Offline pinball god

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • ******
  • High Score Initials:
  • Forum Posts:
  • Melbourne
  • Metallica is here to stay
Re: globes can it be so?
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2015, 10:35:49 PM »
When you rewired in the new sockets, did you file the area you soldered the return wire ? Very common problem, and it will cause intermittent lamp issues.
didn't file but I understand what you mean. I scraped the top coating to ensure the solder took.
Still loving my Metallica Premium

Offline Strangeways

  • Pinball Restoration is my passion
  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+9)
  • *****
  • High Score Initials:
  • Forum Posts:
  • Melbourne
  • ABN 68 283 634 461
    • Ride The Boney Beast
Re: globes can it be so?
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2015, 10:39:50 PM »
When you rewired in the new sockets, did you file the area you soldered the return wire ? Very common problem, and it will cause intermittent lamp issues.
didn't file but I understand what you mean. I scraped the top coating to ensure the solder took.

 ^^^
Aussie Pinball - Proud to be Australia's Premier Pinball Forum

http://www.australianpinballrestorations.com.au/

http://www.rtbb.com.au/catalog/

We carry the largest range of NEW Ramps in Australia

Offline Crashramp

  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • ******
  • High Score Initials:
  • Forum Posts:
  • Albury
Re: globes can it be so?
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2015, 10:55:50 PM »
Lighting can be an absolute pain sometimes. I always seem to be chasing an issue with a globe here or there. All has been good with Fathom until the other day I had a light come on and it won't go off.  ^.^

Offline pinball god

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • ******
  • High Score Initials:
  • Forum Posts:
  • Melbourne
  • Metallica is here to stay
Re: globes can it be so?
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2015, 11:07:30 PM »
Lighting can be an absolute pain sometimes. I always seem to be chasing an issue with a globe here or there. All has been good with Fathom until the other day I had a light come on and it won't go off.  ^.^
as long as its not a flasher. My embryon has some good burn marks in the centre of the playfield. Unfortunately it happened before I got it otherwise I would have shut it down until it was fixed
Still loving my Metallica Premium

Offline Crashramp

  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • ******
  • High Score Initials:
  • Forum Posts:
  • Albury
Re: globes can it be so?
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2015, 11:21:34 PM »
Lighting can be an absolute pain sometimes. I always seem to be chasing an issue with a globe here or there. All has been good with Fathom until the other day I had a light come on and it won't go off.  ^.^
as long as its not a flasher. My embryon has some good burn marks in the centre of the playfield. Unfortunately it happened before I got it otherwise I would have shut it down until it was fixed

No not a flasher. It's not doing any damage, it's just annoying and I haven't had time to do much about it other than try a different globe. This weekend perhaps.

Offline mitchjjam

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • **
  • Forum Posts:
Re: globes can it be so?
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2015, 05:51:11 PM »
Is it a controlled globe under the playfield?

If so I would start by resetting and checking the connectors then the Matrix.

Could be a bad Diode or other issue.

Cheers

Offline Crashramp

  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • ******
  • High Score Initials:
  • Forum Posts:
  • Albury
Re: globes can it be so?
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2015, 07:36:34 PM »
Is it a controlled globe under the playfield?

If so I would start by resetting and checking the connectors then the Matrix.

Could be a bad Diode or other issue.

Cheers


Thanks, apart from checking the holder for damage and stray bits of solder I haven't had time to do anything about it yet. I'll try reseating first and I have another board I can try in it as well.

Offline pinball god

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • ******
  • High Score Initials:
  • Forum Posts:
  • Melbourne
  • Metallica is here to stay
Re: globes can it be so?
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2015, 01:10:42 PM »
Still have globe problems. #5 controlled lamp was dead again and replaced the thyrister again. Then noticed a globe burnt out on the target special insert, so replaced it.

Is this coincidental again or maybe power issues? Looking at maybe replacing the power rectifier pcb.
Still loving my Metallica Premium

Offline pinball god

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • ******
  • High Score Initials:
  • Forum Posts:
  • Melbourne
  • Metallica is here to stay
Re: globes can it be so?
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2015, 08:50:29 PM »
Quick update, the controlled lamp #5 has gone out again. I am suspecting the thyrister is gone again. any ideas guys?
Still loving my Metallica Premium

Offline DSB

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • ******
  • High Score Initials:
  • Forum Posts:
  • Gold Coast
    • OMNI Electrical & Data
Re: globes can it be so?
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2015, 08:18:12 AM »
Bad bunch of globes???

Try swapping a globe from another location into the #5 controlled lamp spot rather than install a new one.


Offline pinball god

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • ******
  • High Score Initials:
  • Forum Posts:
  • Melbourne
  • Metallica is here to stay
Re: globes can it be so?
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2015, 07:01:30 PM »
Bad bunch of globes???

Try swapping a globe from another location into the #5 controlled lamp spot rather than install a new one.


don't think globe as tested good just now. I think Q4 or something like that on the lamp driver is blown again.

If so what's doing it? Any ideas of what to look for, shorts, power rectifier etc etc?
Still loving my Metallica Premium