No Knocker

[deadlydave]

Hi all,

I've got the Gorgar set to free play and when I get a matchings, special or credit on points, I get no Knocker or credit shown. Is this right?

I have tried changing from free play to coins, triggered coin slot and knocked down targets by hand, I then get knocker and credit displayed with a special, but no credits or knocker when free game points are met.

I have checked through the settings and all appear to be pretty much default.

Would like to get free game on points working and would really like to get knocker working when Im set on free play.

Any advice much appreciated.

Cheers
Dave

[ajlaird]

This one sounds very interesting - I look forward to the answer!

[FirePower]

I've got a couple of WMS machines of this vintage and that is how they seem to work - in freeplay no knocker.  I've never noticed the credit count not displaying, but it seems reasonable as don't you set the max credits to 0 to put it into free play.  I've always meant to check if the games played etc statistics continue to work in freeplay.

Maybe this reason is why some nong bored a hole and mounted a bright green "coin" button on my Firepower - looks really great!

BTW the lack of the knocker sound doesn't worry as much on Firepower as Gorgar as I get many fewer free games on Firepower.  On Gorgar you seem to get them much more easily.

I did read in someone's website or guide of the idea of mounting an extra switch contact set on the play button and wiring this extra switch to the coin micro, set it so this additional switch activates slightly before the play button.  Now every time you push play you get the sequence add a coin and start a game and pin can be left with more normal replay settings.

[ajlaird]

If that is the case, is there a different ROM version that could be installed?

[braddo]

My Gorgar's coin mechanism is not attached, but, with Williams Flash the knocker does not work when it's set on freeplay. I guess there could be a way around it to have it work on freeplay, if you find out let me know!

[deadlydave]

Thanks for the replies,

Thats a good tip about the switch Firepower, will have a go at hooking that up, I feel robbed when I win a free play and dont hear the knocker.

So its normal not to have a knocker on free play I get, but I think I have another issue with no credits been awarded on points when I have set machine to coin play.

Would this possibly be a connection problem between master display board and cpu board?

Cheers
Dave

[FirePower]

I feel robbed when I win a free play and dont hear the knocker.

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Would this possibly be a connection problem between master display board and cpu board?

I feel your pain at being robbed!

Don't reckon it can be a connector issue. Much more likely to be game settings and I'd be looking hard at these. To me they should be

14, 15, 16 & 17 = a non zero number and ascending in value
25 = a non zero number for number of credits awarded for Hi
27 = 00 for special awards credits
28 = 00 for award credits at replay score

This stuff is straight from the Instruction manual which I assume you've got?

[deadlydave]

Hi all

Well Firepower was on the money, played around with settings today and realised that when I changed function 18 from 00 (freeplay) to 01 (max credit), i must have brought the special up first and then the credit on points was never going to be awarded 

Have now set function18 to 99 credits, so I hear the knocker when I score a credit, just have to keep the credits topped up via coin switch. 

Which leads me to another problem, the knocker on Gorgar is really soft compared to the gottlieb, I cleaned the sleeve and plunger and made sure the knocker chassis was fixed down tight but its a pretty weak sound, would it be louder if I removed knocker from the board its mounted on and fixed it direct to cabinet?