What's a fair price to spray a cabinet?

[Strangeways]

OK - Go to a paint supplier and simply buy acrylic lacquer with a compatible thinner - General Purpose thinner should do. I'd say no more than 1ltr of base color will easily do the headbox and the cabinet. Mix 60 thinner and 40 paint (you can do 50/50 for primer). Set the gun to around 35 PSI and practice on an old piece of timber. Let the paint almost dry and play around with the gun (airflow and paint mix) until you are happy. Before you know it, you will get the hang of it. EXPECT to make mistakes. This is how you learn the gun, compressor and paint. You are effectively bypassing Trade School by learning on the job. soon you will love it !

Do all coats of topcoat in the same session - don't paint one coat, then sand, then another coat and sand.. wait 10 minutes inbetween coats. That's my preference, but it might not be right in theory.

Paint in a well ventilated area. Wear a breathing mask AND goggles. Why eye protection ? Because last year my touch up gun blew black paint and thinner straight into my eye and it stung like hell ! I lost half a day at the Eye and Ear Hospital - so cover all the safety issues BEFORE doing anything.

[studley67]

guys,someone posted a cab respray of a 78 playboy.can any one enlighted me on who it was.i would like some aussie paint match for the colours.

[studley67]

OK - Go to a paint supplier and simply buy acrylic lacquer with a compatible thinner - General Purpose thinner should do. I'd say no more than 1ltr of base color will easily do the headbox and the cabinet. Mix 60 thinner and 40 paint (you can do 50/50 for primer). Set the gun to around 35 PSI and practice on an old piece of timber. Let the paint almost dry and play around with the gun (airflow and paint mix) until you are happy. Before you know it, you will get the hang of it. EXPECT to make mistakes. This is how you learn the gun, compressor and paint. You are effectively bypassing Trade School by learning on the job. soon you will love it !

Do all coats of topcoat in the same session - don't paint one coat, then sand, then another coat and sand.. wait 10 minutes inbetween coats. That's my preference, but it might not be right in theory.

Paint in a well ventilated area. Wear a breathing mask AND goggles. Why eye protection ? Because last year my touch up gun blew black paint and thinner straight into my eye and it stung like hell ! I lost half a day at the Eye and Ear Hospital - so cover all the safety issues BEFORE doing anything.

Great advice.SAFETY FIRST

[Strangeways]

guys,someone posted a cab respray of a 78 playboy.can any one enlighted me on who it was.i would like some aussie paint match for the colours.

Remove the front door brackets. You should see the original factory "pink". Take the lower cabinet to a paint supplier and have them match that color. That's the only way I match colors. don't rely on the pantone system as it is not perfect.

[Caveoftreasures]

I read this thread with interest having seen many pinball cabinets on the Gold Coast and Brisbane sprayed fully in 2 pac before people apply full cabinet decals.

One person got it done, then it sort of caught on, then quite a few people up here got it done to their high end restorations. The cost was $500 total, but the cabinets and headbox were delivered to the painter, fully sanded inside and out back to barewood, with the sanding finish being as smooth as a babys bum. Then the cabinets were 2 pac painted in gloss black 100 percent coverage (meaning every inch of wood, inside n out n underneath and behind was finished to a mirror gloss black finish.)

Then decals were applied ofcourse to all areas, leaving the front edges of the headbox, gloss black, inside of machine gloss black, rear of headbox gloss black etc etc. The cabinets are all done at a automative booth etc. These cabinets were 2 paced because the machines were going to be longterm keepers.

The end result is lush, but every spot of dust shows up on the inside of the cabinet very easily.
Personally, it is a bit of overkill but the price was excellent. The only thing, is that a wood colour paint on the inside of the cabinet does look better.
I say wood type colour, cause a lot of the time, when people applied wood clear to the inside of the cabinet, it went about 3 to 6 shades darker which looked awful. One guy did find a wood colour that was so close to pine wood, u thought it was actually bare wood, untouched/unsealed.

I would be interested to hear if anyone else has painted the insides of their restored cabinets a different colour to wood or black.....maybe a gloss white or the same colour as the majority of the outside cabinet.

example - pink inside the cabinet all over like the outsides on a 1978 Williams phoenix instead of wood colour ?  or white on that machine....?? Anyone else had any similar prices or different colours painted on the insides ?? 

[studley67]

guys,someone posted a cab respray of a 78 playboy.can any one enlighted me on who it was.i would like some aussie paint match for the colours.

Remove the front door brackets. You should see the original factory "pink". Take the lower cabinet to a paint supplier and have them match that color. That's the only way I match colors. don't rely on the pantone system as it is not perfect.

are you serious man.i have to cart the box to protec etc to match the colour.surely someone has sprayed one before.

[Retropin]

guys,someone posted a cab respray of a 78 playboy.can any one enlighted me on who it was.i would like some aussie paint match for the colours.

Remove the front door brackets. You should see the original factory "pink". Take the lower cabinet to a paint supplier and have them match that color. That's the only way I match colors. don't rely on the pantone system as it is not perfect.

are you serious man.i have to cart the box to protec etc to match the colour.surely someone has sprayed one before.

Is the pink the same pink as on the playfield?? If so I can provide the Pantone colour match code

[Crashramp]

guys,someone posted a cab respray of a 78 playboy.can any one enlighted me on who it was.i would like some aussie paint match for the colours.

Remove the front door brackets. You should see the original factory "pink". Take the lower cabinet to a paint supplier and have them match that color. That's the only way I match colors. don't rely on the pantone system as it is not perfect.

Out of interest Nino, do you find that the same colours are used from game to game or are they always different? I don't mean different brands but say Bally's of the same era. For example is the same blue or red used often on different games?

[studley67]

guys,someone posted a cab respray of a 78 playboy.can any one enlighted me on who it was.i would like some aussie paint match for the colours.

Remove the front door brackets. You should see the original factory "pink". Take the lower cabinet to a paint supplier and have them match that color. That's the only way I match colors. don't rely on the pantone system as it is not perfect.

looks the same to me.makes sense.please do,gav
are you serious man.i have to cart the box to protec etc to match the colour.surely someone has sprayed one before.

Is the pink the same pink as on the playfield?? If so I can provide the Pantone colour match code

[Retropin]

OK.. need to go to the shed of no power so will sort it out tomorrow. I did have it written down but cant find a damn thing since ive moved.

... just to add.. stencils coming soon for this title 

[Strangeways]

guys,someone posted a cab respray of a 78 playboy.can any one enlighted me on who it was.i would like some aussie paint match for the colours.

Remove the front door brackets. You should see the original factory "pink". Take the lower cabinet to a paint supplier and have them match that color. That's the only way I match colors. don't rely on the pantone system as it is not perfect.

are you serious man.i have to cart the box to protec etc to match the colour.surely someone has sprayed one before.

That's exactly what I do. That's the only way to learn color matching and also general info about painting methods. For example - GTB Genie has a deeper Red colour on the head and body that the more Orange colour found on the backglass frame. BUT - it is EXACTLY the same colour ! The cabinet orange is painted OVER the base yellow, which makes it look RED. The orange on the backglass frame is simple painted directly on the frame, so it looks different.

guys,someone posted a cab respray of a 78 playboy.can any one enlighted me on who it was.i would like some aussie paint match for the colours.

Remove the front door brackets. You should see the original factory "pink". Take the lower cabinet to a paint supplier and have them match that color. That's the only way I match colors. don't rely on the pantone system as it is not perfect.

Out of interest Nino, do you find that the same colours are used from game to game or are they always different? I don't mean different brands but say Bally's of the same era. For example is the same blue or red used often on different games?

Base whites are the same - Eight Ball, KISS etc. Eight Ball has two different Greens for the apron and playfield wooden siderail runners. The KISS orange is unique to KISS, which is different to the orange on Eight Ball. I've seen two Fathoms with different light Greens. The fact is that Bally often changed paint suppliers during production, so there might be differences in factory paint colours. Only slight changes. I keep a small sample of each color for each machine. They are very close.

Regarding the 2 pac approach for cabinets - That's not how it was done in the factory. It looks GREAT, but is is more of an enhancement or "mod" rather than a faithful restoration. When I see the "blinged" full gloss black cabinet internals I don't view them as restorations.

[Crashramp]

That makes sense, different supplier = differences in the colours. Interesting about the Genie and I guess other games as well with the effect the different layers of paint have on the end cabinet colour. I hadn't really thought about that before.

[Caveoftreasures]

guys,someone posted a cab respray of a 78 playboy.can any one enlighted me on who it was.i would like some aussie paint match for the colours.

Remove the front door brackets. You should see the original factory "pink". Take the lower cabinet to a paint supplier and have them match that color. That's the only way I match colors. don't rely on the pantone system as it is not perfect.

are you serious man.i have to cart the box to protec etc to match the colour.surely someone has sprayed one before.

Is the pink the same pink as on the playfield?? If so I can provide the Pantone colour match code

What title are u doing stencils for Gav ?

[Retropin]

Bloody hell.. what title aren't I doing stencils for??
PARAGON is the next big one.. ive just finished SWINGER for Damien.. KISS is now on Ebay. But whats coming up is..

PARAGON... PLAYBOY... SPIRIT..GORGAR.. STAR TREK....MEDUSA....$6MIL MAN.
They are whats top of the list with PARAGON in #1 place... then Playboy. Ive also got EMBRYON, XENON and EVEL KNEVEL to do.
If ive missed any out anyone, then speak up. I did have a list written down but its gone by the by and is lost in the " everything is lost" shed, so I need to restart and list them on my comp

[Caveoftreasures]

?? any Phoenix (1978 - Williams) stencils made anywhere.  it looks like a easy stencil to make with base colour pink, white and orange ontop  only of the base pink etc.