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Re: Gottlieb sys1
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2014, 10:13:05 PM »
Ok pin is all good to go except for 1 prob.the 5000 when lit behind drop targets doesnty score. even when proper contact made manually with pf glass removed. I dont have. a manual or sch for it. Which transister etc should I test?
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Re: Gottlieb sys1
« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2014, 09:33:08 PM »
Any ideas of how to fix this?
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Re: Gottlieb sys1
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2014, 09:44:52 PM »
The switch closure sends a signal back to the CPU which then triggers a score on the display. You really need a  schematic, but switch matrix is A1j7 pins 10 through to  17.
Switch is also diode protected so first call would be to make sure this works as if its gone open then no signal will go back to the CPU..

Sys1 diags can be found here..

http://www.pinrepair.com/sys1/#tools


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Re: Gottlieb sys1
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2014, 08:55:43 AM »
Thanks for the advice and link Gav  ^^^
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Re: Gottlieb sys1
« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2014, 09:47:51 AM »
Check all the Switch Matrix diodes. They are mounted on small boards under the playfield. They are obsolete 1n914, but you can use 1N4148 fast switching for this application.
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Re: Gottlieb sys1
« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2014, 10:46:24 PM »
Thanks Nino. Can you believe the shit for brains some people have? I changed all the fuses on this pin to correct value
Light box is 10amp had 30  amp fitted
Play board lamp 7.5amp had 30amp
8volt 5amp slow had 5 amp fast
25volt 5amp slow had 30 amp
69volt 1/4amp slow had 3/4amp
 &^&
If it wasn't for you guys, I wouldn't have thought about checking this out on a working machine. Obviously they just put in what was laying around.
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Re: Gottlieb sys1
« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2014, 09:26:48 AM »
Thanks Nino. Can you believe the shit for brains some people have? I changed all the fuses on this pin to correct value
Light box is 10amp had 30  amp fitted
Play board lamp 7.5amp had 30amp
8volt 5amp slow had 5 amp fast
25volt 5amp slow had 30 amp
69volt 1/4amp slow had 3/4amp
 &^&
If it wasn't for you guys, I wouldn't have thought about checking this out on a working machine. Obviously they just put in what was laying around.


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Re: Gottlieb sys1
« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2014, 10:01:02 PM »
you sure can Chris, like I said if it wasnt for you guys on AP I'd also be none the wiser and have neglected to check. Pin still works fine with correct value fuses, so they were not put in to hide any problems.
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Re: Gottlieb sys1
« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2014, 10:49:25 PM »
you sure can Chris, like I said if it wasnt for you guys on AP I'd also be none the wiser and have neglected to check. Pin still works fine with correct value fuses, so they were not put in to hide any problems.

I have plenty of stories. In fact, my golden rule for ANY game left in my workshop is that I check every single fuse before even powering on. This is even AFTER I spent the extra $ having 20+ GPOs divided up in separate circuits - all with safety switches.
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