Ebay China purchases... Be CAREFUL!!!

[Homepin]

How much do you pay your regular assembly line staff mike? how much is the girl on the assembly line being paid per hour in Aussie dollars mate?

I will answer this even though it is none of your business.

The award wage for a "general assembly hand" is 2350rmb per month for a 20 day month. Sundays and after hours (after 5.30pm weekdays) are classed as "overtime" and must be paid at 1.5 times the pay rate for weekdays and double time Sundays.

The LOWEST paid staff member in my factory works 6 days - 8am to 5.30pm with 1.5 hours for lunch daily. They are provided a shared dormitory with maximum 3 per unit and I provide a bed. I also provide a "common room"  which has a refrigerator, washing machine, large communal table and cooking gear in a fitted out kitchen.

This person is paid 2900rmb and gets all of the extras above. I also just paid for them to have their teeth fixed as they are from the countryside and didn't place a great deal of importance on having good teeth so after discussions it turned out they simply didn't want to spend the money (not that they didn't have the money - they just didn't want to spend it on a dentist).

They are also given training on the workshop equipment such as MIG welder, lathe, Folding machine and other things - training that NO OTHER Chinese factory would give them.

I pride myself in looking after ALL of my staff and giving them conditions far better than they would get anywhere else.

For an exercise I just averaged all my staff wages and the average is 4680rmb (about AU$975 per month) - that is BRILLIANT money when you remember they have no other costs except food.

They also have more Government mandated public holidays than we do in Australia!

[guyricho]

How much do you pay your regular assembly line staff mike? how much is the girl on the assembly line being paid per hour in Aussie dollars mate?

I will answer this even though it is none of your business.

The award wage for a "general assembly hand" is 2350rmb per month for a 20 day month. Sundays and after hours (after 5.30pm weekdays) are classed as "overtime" and must be paid at 1.5 times the pay rate for weekdays and double time Sundays.

The LOWEST paid staff member in my factory works 6 days - 8am to 5.30pm with 1.5 hours for lunch daily. They are provided a shared dormitory with maximum 3 per unit and I provide a bed. I also provide a "common room"  which has a refrigerator, washing machine, large communal table and cooking gear in a fitted out kitchen.

This person is paid 2900rmb and gets all of the extras above. I also just paid for them to have their teeth fixed as they are from the countryside and didn't place a great deal of importance on having good teeth so after discussions it turned out they simply didn't want to spend the money (not that they didn't have the money - they just didn't want to spend it on a dentist).

They are also given training on the workshop equipment such as MIG welder, lathe, Folding machine and other things - training that NO OTHER Chinese factory would give them.

I pride myself in looking after ALL of my staff and giving them conditions far better than they would get anywhere else.

For an exercise I just averaged all my staff wages and the average is 4680rmb (about AU$975 per month) - that is BRILLIANT money when you remember they have no other costs except food.

They also have more Government mandated public holidays than we do in Australia!

no dont average your staff tell us the girl on the production lines cost PER HOUR.

[Homepin]

your not worried about making money so why not employ Australians we need investment in this country? The truth is you are maximizing profits so dont fkn lie mate.
I hate people who lie

you could be here like the rest of us employing aprentices and giving jobs to Australians.

I already answered this but you just won't listen - I simply cannot buy the things in Australia that I can get here - coil winding machine (Made in China) from an Australian supplier AU$3400 - I paid $300 in China FOR THE SAME MACHINE.

I can assure you I have not made one single cent profit from this venture - I have spent (at last count) in excess of AU$1.5M building this factory and developing products - sure, I hope to turn that around one day and actually see a bit come back but if I wanted to use the money to "maximise profits" I certainly wouldn't be doing what I am doing, there are far easier things I could have done with the money.

I sleep very well thankyou in one of the factory dormitories surrounded by trees and the birds wake me up in the morning very much like my home in the rainforests of Kuranda.

Anyway, I am unlikely to comment further as I believe I have ansered your questions honestly and completely which is more than I can say for you!

[Pop Bumper Pete]

Let's see now
Stern probably pays minimum wage which is $10 hour in the US
And an LE is $8000 US

Minimum wage in Australia is $22
Cannot see too many buyers of games at $10,000 +

[Homepin]

How much do you pay your regular assembly line staff mike? how much is the girl on the assembly line being paid per hour in Aussie dollars mate?

I will answer this even though it is none of your business.

The award wage for a "general assembly hand" is 2350rmb per month for a 20 day month. Sundays and after hours (after 5.30pm weekdays) are classed as "overtime" and must be paid at 1.5 times the pay rate for weekdays and double time Sundays.

The LOWEST paid staff member in my factory works 6 days - 8am to 5.30pm with 1.5 hours for lunch daily. They are provided a shared dormitory with maximum 3 per unit and I provide a bed. I also provide a "common room"  which has a refrigerator, washing machine, large communal table and cooking gear in a fitted out kitchen.

This person is paid 2900rmb and gets all of the extras above. I also just paid for them to have their teeth fixed as they are from the countryside and didn't place a great deal of importance on having good teeth so after discussions it turned out they simply didn't want to spend the money (not that they didn't have the money - they just didn't want to spend it on a dentist).

They are also given training on the workshop equipment such as MIG welder, lathe, Folding machine and other things - training that NO OTHER Chinese factory would give them.

I pride myself in looking after ALL of my staff and giving them conditions far better than they would get anywhere else.

For an exercise I just averaged all my staff wages and the average is 4680rmb (about AU$975 per month) - that is BRILLIANT money when you remember they have no other costs except food.

They also have more Government mandated public holidays than we do in Australia!

no dont average your staff tell us the girl on the production lines cost PER HOUR.

You are obviously a bit thick:

2900rmb (AU$604.17) divide by 8 hours a day for 20 days = $4 per hour PLUS all extras and accommodation.

That is the LOWEST paid person - 100% UNSKILLED - most others are getting double or triple that.

Keep the cost of living in perspective as well, a can of Coke costs $0.30 and a carton of 12 large beers is $6.60. A bus ticket is $0.25 for as many stops as you like and the average subway trip is around $0.40

Their $4 an hour goes a VERY long way.

[Caveoftreasures]

The girl on Mikes production line gets paid an amount of money that she obviously is happy with or she would leave and work for another boss in another factory.

Mike has obviously increased the amount of money and provided good conditions to attract and keep good staff.
It goes both ways, you look after your staff and they respect and like you. Mike is a white man in a Chineese country so he obviously has to make a good impression and abide by all laws and would be under a microscope from authorities.
Mikes employment has provid many families with food on the table. As a person who has employed many people for many years, that is something a boss feels proud about and helping other people prosper is rewarding.

I am not sure why some people want to go on a witch hunt when you will find nothing except a proud Aussie having a go.
And Ofcourse Everything Mike does is Australian owned. He is an Aussie with Aussie property and Aussie money and Aussie kids etc. Suggesting anything but is just stupid. Building a manufacturing plant in China is business sensible.
You can't do it in Australia now and make money. Any businessman surely knows that.

We are proud of you Mike. I am not the only person who is in your corner.
Every one I speak to is dam proud.

[Strangeways]

Reported posts acknowledged and ban instated as per site rules.

Mike is big enough and ugly enough to look after himself (as he has done here) - so unless he asks the mods to clean up the thread, it will be left as is 

[Strangeways]

mod hat off 

Industry / commercial hat on

I'm a retailer for the Licensed Homepin Hankin tables. The ONLY distributorships APR will look at are the "best of breed". The tables could be made in timbucktoo - using um-pa loompas to build it. I don't care. The homepin tables are certified to HIGHER than Australian standards. The other tables are not. They are all made in China.

Fluke made the worlds best test equipment. Made in China, but a little sticker says words to the effect "Parts made in the USA, assembled in China".

Mike has the same acumen as ALL the successful companies in our industry. They do it because they WANT to and not for profit. I'd like to know how many others have funded such a project when they could have invested it elsewhere for a high return. Mike's return is the satisfaction of completing a project that he WANTS to do. How many others can say that about such an investment ? Those that know mike and have talked to him know that he works because he enjoys the challenges and he is passionate about this venture.

[Homepin]

For the record - I did not report any posts.

[Caveoftreasures]

Objectors will be rounded up, sent to a farming community in China,s back settlements and employed in a gay bars or a Chineese brothel.

So who would like to make the first crap post cause you will be the prize winner !
Don't all rush to type. It's going to be a stampede and we are all toying to be eating Icecream whilst one luck person gets the famous gay time licked pop icecream.

[Caveoftreasures]

I don't report posts.
I usually create the ones that people report on. !   

[Retropin]

Well that was a surprise!!! Ha ha- all good. A shit fight keeps us all entertained from time to time.
Anyway, point being made and with others input I believe has been made.....

 Ebay is like a loophole in the process of certification of standards. many Chinese small companies see Ebay as a market front to sell products to Western countries and it works well for them. But... the days of single importers distributing goods throughout Australia has long gone ( bar some products). Chinese manufacturers will sell single items to end users whereas before, you had to buy bulk and have quite a few $$'s behind you as well as storage etc.
The onus of safety used to be with the distributor.. you can buy what you like but that doesn't mean you can onsell what you like. Fines for selling non compliant goods are hefty to say the least. By going direct, you are bypassing this important step in the chain and it really is " buyer beware".
If you don't know how to determine if something is safe.. don't buy it. If you cant make it safe once determined... don't buy it.
Oh and remember... only the Chinese know how to make stainless that rusts..

LOL!!!!

[pinball god]

I'd just like to state my interest here. I am part of the um-pa loompas cooperative and would like to convey to all that we have been a repressed group when it comes to fair salary rates. Our current employer pays us in chocolates and no other benefits. We're dropping like flies with hardened arteries and obesity. Please support our cause before its too late.

[Caveoftreasures]

Ahhhhhhhhh yes, the Oompa Loompas.
They got out of working in chocolate factories and went into the dwarf throwing entertainment industry and I hear a few are doing well in Porno Movies. Snow White and the gang bang of the 7 dwarves was a recent hit.

I have even heard some Oompa Loompas are working at JJP and Stern. Under cabinet quality control.

[pinsanity]

Oh and remember... only the Chinese know how to make stainless that rusts..

LOL!!!!

And elevators that decapitate/crush to death their citizenry.

I'd just like to state my interest here. I am part of the um-pa loompas cooperative and would like to convey to all that we have been a repressed group when it comes to fair salary rates. Our current employer pays us in chocolates and no other benefits. We're dropping like flies with hardened arteries and obesity. Please support our cause before its too late.

Any cooperative that has a conflicting ideology with the ruling Wonkarist Party will have its leadership liquidated and its rank and file members sent to the laogai for re-education.