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scratch building an Eight ball Deluxe?
« on: January 08, 2016, 07:44:43 AM »
I was just reading on pinside of a guy scratch building a Fathom, geting the in line drops seems to be his biggest cchallenge

I was wondering if there was any playfield parts that were specific to an EBD that would make it hard to scratch build this game?

I would also need to find a donor game, would any SS bally be suitable or an I going to have to find an early 80s machine?

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Re: scratch building an Eight ball Deluxe?
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2016, 08:45:23 AM »
Hmmm, you are a few months too late. I just sold a fully populated trashed EBD pf, wiring loom and some boards a few months ago for next to nothing

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Re: scratch building an Eight ball Deluxe?
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2016, 08:47:33 AM »
Strangeways is the Bally expert so should be able to advise on the appropriate board era 5hat would be suitable , but as encouragement  I did a build of a gottlueb from parts a while back, rewarding and fun.
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Re: scratch building an Eight ball Deluxe?
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2016, 08:54:24 AM »
Inline drops were the challenge lol pretty sure I have a few sets in a box hahaha.     Can be done mate pretty sure I have you covered for new pop bumper rings, caps and probably drop targets ;)

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Re: scratch building an Eight ball Deluxe?
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2016, 08:54:25 AM »
Hmmm, you are a few months too late. I just sold a fully populated trashed EBD pf, wiring loom and some boards a few months ago for next to nothing

Just my luck :)

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Re: scratch building an Eight ball Deluxe?
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2016, 08:55:25 AM »
Strangeways is the Bally expert so should be able to advise on the appropriate board era 5hat would be suitable , but as encouragement  I did a build of a gottlueb from parts a while back, rewarding and fun.

You build prototypes, I ain't that good ;)

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Re: scratch building an Eight ball Deluxe?
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2016, 08:57:54 AM »
Strangeways is the Bally expert so should be able to advise on the appropriate board era 5hat would be suitable , but as encouragement  I did a build of a gottlueb from parts a while back, rewarding and fun.

You build prototypes, I ain't that good ;)

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Re: scratch building an Eight ball Deluxe?
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2016, 09:00:32 AM »
Inline drops were the challenge lol pretty sure I have a few sets in a box hahaha.     Can be done mate pretty sure I have you covered for new pop bumper rings, caps and probably drop targets ;)

Yeah, you have everything :)

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Re: scratch building an Eight ball Deluxe?
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2016, 12:05:57 PM »
Absolutely can be done.

The guys at HRP have scratch built a Fathom cabinet. EBD is exactly the same. If you have a backglass and the playfield, then you have made a great start. Cosmetic parts would be easy to source - plastics set, drop targets, pop bumper parts - readily available. As mentioned, the hardest parts would be found on donor playfields - the DT assemblies being the hardest. I would not install linear flippers - go with the earlier style.

A lot of what you would need would come off donor games - door, transformer, tilt mechs etc. The backglass locking latch is reproduced.

Boards - repros are out there - altek / rottendog.

It would be a very rewarding project, as long as you have a lot of patience.
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Re: scratch building an Eight ball Deluxe?
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2016, 12:10:16 PM »
Forgot to mention - I have a EBD in my collection that is unrestored (and never for sale) - so if you need a reference game for photos etc - The machine is at your disposal  %$%
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Re: scratch building an Eight ball Deluxe?
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2016, 01:02:45 PM »
Forgot to mention - I have a EBD in my collection that is unrestored (and never for sale) - so if you need a reference game for photos etc - The machine is at your disposal  %$%

I am hoping that there is some logic to a Bally game
As you know, I have a couple
From those I should be able to work out how a Bally game is built
I was needing to know if there was any part that was only used on EBD

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Re: scratch building an Eight ball Deluxe?
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2016, 02:55:54 PM »
When did Bally start using chipboard to make their cabinets?

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Re: scratch building an Eight ball Deluxe?
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2016, 12:30:15 AM »
When did Bally start using chipboard to make their cabinets?

Hopefully someone will know exactly which game they started on but it must have been 83' or 84'? My 1984 built Kings of Steel machine has one of those crap chipboard cabinets.

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Re: scratch building an Eight ball Deluxe?
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2016, 03:38:06 AM »
When did Bally start using chipboard to make their cabinets?

Hopefully someone will know exactly which game they started on but it must have been 83' or 84'? My 1984 built Kings of Steel machine has one of those crap chipboard cabinets.

OK
Kings of Steel is a good example, other than the cabinet, are there other cost cutting measure that bally introduced at the time?

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Re: scratch building an Eight ball Deluxe?
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2016, 04:51:04 AM »
It is great that reproduction cabinet are available, but I will still need all the hardware that goes in the cabinet

I have just bought an Xs & Os that is complete
This will give me some generic parts for the playfield, and hopefully most parts for the cabinet and back box

Will still need to get the proper speech board, and target banks for the playfield

This could work ;)