Thunderbirds - Homepin

[Pop Bumper Pete]

Seem Mike will have to find someone new to distribute in victoria
Wayne dumped him

[Strangeways]

Seem Mike will have to find someone new to distribute in victoria
Wayne dumped him

Wayne and Dynamic Billiards are (were) retailers. The Victorian Distributor is WA based. At one stage, APR was a retailer until we were asked to replace the WA distributor. Things rapidly went south, and as a result, we dropped Homepin. The "distribution" model Homepin uses is a complete mess and one of the reasons we moved on.

[Pop Bumper Pete]

there is a private group set up at Aussie Arcade for any TAG buyers
you need to contact toads at AA to join, you also need to supply proof of purchace

[Strangeways]

Why is there a need for a Secret Squirrel section ? I though updates were posted on FB ?

[oldskool1969]

Why is there a need for a Secret Squirrel section ? I though updates were posted on FB ?

Divided community on Homepin and it always causes a lot of crap and heated posts.

Best this way, believe me.

[Retropin]

It all started with such promise and its ended up a complete mess. So much so that the preorder guys have to make a secret group to discuss their issues.
I thought the UK guys on Pinside were going to give an honest opinion on the game but they went quiet all of a sudden.. but hey, no matter as its still only a prototype yes?

What a f**king sham

[4_amusement_only]

The more public noise, the more pressure to get the games out.


Shame it's now a taboo subject on AA, I enjoyed hearing about what's going on and everyone's thoughts on Mike, the game and the situation.

[swinks]

I thought it was good that some people actual found a voice to speak up about the truth and their frustrations so the general public would learn and be pre-warned - a shame it went secret squirrel.

[pinball god]

Yep that was my intent.  Warn unsuspecting newbie foremost. Looks like dog eat dog philosophy is paramount on this subject

[Retropin]

If you go back 5 years there wasn't one person in the Australian pinball community that wasn't behind this venture 100%.
 Fast forward to today and its a very different story.
In fact worldwide, more customers have been lost than gained.
Only one reason for that im afraid

[Pop Bumper Pete]

Shame it's now a taboo subject on AA, I enjoyed hearing about what's going on and everyone's thoughts on Mike, the game and the situation.

I know i am a loud agitator on the subject, but too many people who had no skin in the game would drive the thread off the rails
Homepin has been banned (I think) from AA, so we were never going to get answers from him
(and probably AP, and has closed his Pinside account)

Only one reason for that im afraid

Which is a pity because it looks like he is now (or very soon) building production games

[Retropin]

Well that is good news for you Pete and all the others who put over $5000 of faith in the venture.. glad to hear you will get closure soon.
From my understanding, Mike is banned from AA... removed himself from AP but is not welcome back and removed himself from Pinside.
We did tell him NOT to do his own PR right at the start, but yeh well.. you know the rest

[pinball god]

I found friendly advise is fround upon by some and they then become nasty.  That's why some people with no money in the project went to town on the guy.  You come into a fight with a gun, then expect to get hurt yourself.  And no, his attitude is not acceptable just because that's the way he is.  No excuse.

The agitators, most of the time,  demanded answers to serious questions and got jack,  and threads were shut down.

My take on the forum fiasco is those with preorders were scared to make noise and their fears voiced,  because they are afraid that no new sales will be forthcoming and the venture will fail and they will lose their money. Its a bit like living next to a pedo but not telling your neighbours with kids because you're worried house prices in your area will be effected.  Just not me unfortunately.

Anyway will be interesting to see how TAG pans out over the next couple of years

[Pop Bumper Pete]

The agitators, most of the time,  demanded answers to serious questions and got jack,  and threads were shut down.

in hindsight, the answers were obvious
'no, we are still not ready to build games'
but it has always been somebody elses fault

not once has Mike apologized to us for the delays
not once has he owned (the reason for delay) the problem and promised to fix it

and that is why you should never hold yourself up to be Mr Perfect

[Retropin]

The agitators, most of the time,  demanded answers to serious questions and got jack,  and threads were shut down.

in hindsight, the answers were obvious
'no, we are still not ready to build games'
but it has always been somebody elses fault

not once has Mike apologized to us for the delays
not once has he owned (the reason for delay) the problem and promised to fix it

and that is why you should never hold yourself up to be Mr Perfect

That's because what was actually happening and what was declared as happening were two different things and all along there was no need for it.. it was the lies and deception that kept biting that arse.
 But hey! This is pinball.. its the only industry I know of where people will put their hands deep into their pockets when someone only has an idea and all is forgiven at the release of one good title