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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #60 on: December 09, 2008, 12:27:31 AM »

The coil is mounted the wrong way around. The lugs should be at the opposite end - NOT next to the coil stop. Reverse the coils and check back here.
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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #61 on: December 09, 2008, 08:47:13 AM »
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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #62 on: December 09, 2008, 12:05:43 PM »

This can cause some magnetism on the coil stop over time, holding the flipper in the upright position - momentarily "sticking"..
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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #63 on: December 09, 2008, 10:40:10 PM »
Thanks for the suggestion, put the coil as per martj's and fuse blew. Flipped 3-4 normal times and then held before fuse blew. Felt the coil and it didn't seem any warmer than the left coil after similar flips. BTW the coil on the LHS is postioned back to front as well but doesn't seem to cause a problem. I will fix it once I get the RH flipper going (eventually...I sound like Manuel from Fawlty Towers)
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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #64 on: December 09, 2008, 11:45:43 PM »

Time to do very basic troubleshooting..

Swap the coils over - Left with right..
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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #65 on: December 10, 2008, 02:25:45 PM »
Just quickly before I try this, I actually replaced the original RH coil with this yellow one thinking it was the coil that could have been the cause of the problem. So I think we can move to step 2. What do you think?
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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #66 on: December 13, 2008, 04:23:16 PM »
Just a thought (probably a long shot).  On the yellow cap, does your wires from it have any sheath on it?  Just make sure nothing is exposed and touching bracket assembly?

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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #67 on: December 14, 2008, 12:37:08 PM »
good to hear from you again Marty, I think it does but will confirm.
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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #68 on: December 14, 2008, 01:22:52 PM »

According to the manual - T2 should have FL-11630 coils - Standard Williams coils. You have FL-11629, which are the strongest possible coils which draw more current. You could try 3A SB fuses, in fact 5A SB might solve the problem

See what Fuse is in F101 - It might be a higher rating...

BEFORE even thinking about a higher rated fuse... Try cleaning the EOS and gapping it so that is opens BEFORE hitting the coil stop..

I think the issue is the EOS...Clean and re gap.
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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #69 on: December 14, 2008, 01:50:47 PM »
I looked at that EOS switch and it's not extremely clear but it looks like it really needs to be cleaned/replaced.  There is definitely evidence of corrosion which I believe would cause more current to flow and blow the fuse.  So I have to agree with strangeway.  If thats not it start checking the low power solenoid circuit on the driver board.  A number of things could be bad.

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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #70 on: December 14, 2008, 09:17:55 PM »
You're right Chuck, it definitely looks bad. However it was brand new when the rebuild was done. I actually have cleaned it prior to coming on the site now and have also adjusted it to enable a larger gap when the flipper is in the up position (still maintaining the closed pos when down). Any idea why it got this way so soon??

I have tested it with the LHS flipper fuse as I'm out of fuses and can't faulter it. Quietly I'm treating this as problem solved but until I get my fuses and give T2 a good serving I'll keep my mouth shut. I did several flips and held the flipper on for some time and no fuse blow.

If this is solved I've gotta give a big thanks to Nick and Marty who kept screaming at me about the EOS. Owen also said this would probably be the case (thanks)

Just had a one flipper game with the RHS flipper in the up for the entire game and no problems thus far.
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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #71 on: December 15, 2008, 12:18:42 AM »
You're right Chuck, it definitely looks bad. However it was brand new when the rebuild was done. I actually have cleaned it prior to coming on the site now and have also adjusted it to enable a larger gap when the flipper is in the up position (still maintaining the closed pos when down). Any idea why it got this way so soon??

I have tested it with the LHS flipper fuse as I'm out of fuses and can't faulter it. Quietly I'm treating this as problem solved but until I get my fuses and give T2 a good serving I'll keep my mouth shut. I did several flips and held the flipper on for some time and no fuse blow.

If this is solved I've gotta give a big thanks to Nick and Marty who kept screaming at me about the EOS. Owen also said this would probably be the case (thanks)

Just had a one flipper game with the THS flipper in the up for the entire game and no problems thus far.

What was the value of the fuse F101 ? So you moved it to F102 and the game works fine ? I'll bet it was a higher rated fuse..
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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #72 on: December 21, 2008, 12:49:51 AM »
Finally got my fuse fix for the week thanks to Greg. Put in a new 2.5A in the left flipper and all good. Checked the RHS fuse and it is a 2.5A as well. Figure it was an EOS adjustment that did the trick (Thnaks Nino and Marty).

But let have a laugh (again). Got the fuse in after about 2 weeks of playing with only one flipper. Hey a two flipper game, what a bonus! Get it in the skull and hit the target to get multi-ball. f**kin' plunger dies. Didn't even get to complete one ball. Luckily it was the coil sleeve that stuffed up. So I replace the sleeve with the old one from the flipper rebuild. Try again but the ball release is a little sluggish. Look at the other kicker and notice the coil sleeve is on the other side of the mounting bracket. reinstall and manually test to see all moves free before mounting....BOING amature falls out and where's the SPRING. Look in the mirror and see LOSER tatooed on my forehead.

After searching my whole room found the spring two pinnies down on the carpet. Put it back together and finally got 5 complete games on T2. Pinnies are worse than working on cars.

The trial and tribulations of owning a pinball let alone 4 now.

Please be prepared for more problems in the future. Thanks guys
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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #73 on: December 21, 2008, 09:42:39 AM »
Please be prepared for more problems in the future. Thanks guys

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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #74 on: December 21, 2008, 10:44:04 AM »


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