Gottleib Pro-Football em

[homebrew]

Hi Guys,

I am trying to fix a few problems with my Gottleib Pro-Football.
I had a bit of a play with it about a year ago.  Everything was improving well, more and more was working, then I may have over-fiddled
Lost all lights in the head unit, and several other things went wrong.  I got very frustrated, realised I was way out of my depth and abandoned it.

Now I have some time on my hands.  I have been having another go.  I have a A1 print of the schematics(which may as well be latin).  I don't have a manual, though I have searched all over the internet for one.  I know that I have problems with the Q relay.  There were a couple of loose wires at that relay and I soldered them back on last year.  I don't reckon I put them back in the right spot.

Can someone send me a photo of their Q relay?
Or write down which wire go to which position?
It would really help me out.
This is a great site I have spent over 4 hours reading through the logs.  I still haven't finished "my second pin has arrived - Pro-football", but it is getting late so I will have to finish that off tomorrow.

cheers
Mark
Launceston
Tasmania

[Strangeways]

  Mark and  to Aussie Pinball.

Here's a great start for some reading ;

http://www.pinrepair.com/em/index.htm

I can take a photo of my Q Relay when I get home from work. No probs.

[ktm450]

  Mark, good luck with your project

[homebrew]

Thank you very much strangeways!
I have been using that pinrepair link.  I printed the pinrepair guide, it has post it notes all over it, and is a bit dog-eared.   It has a good gottleib diagram of the vari-target.  I had a problem with one of mine.  I think I have fixed it.  Now have to wait till i put it all back together to find out.

cheers
Mark

[Strangeways]

Thank you very much strangeways!
I have been using that pinrepair link.  I printed the pinrepair guide, it has post it notes all over it, and is a bit dog-eared.   It has a good gottleib diagram of the vari-target.  I had a problem with one of mine.  I think I have fixed it.  Now have to wait till i put it all back together to find out.

cheers
Mark

The joys of an EM - Glad to see you have made a great start !

[Strangeways]

Sorry - Forgot to look - will do tomorrow.

[Ford Fairlane]

wish i could offer advice or pics but i prolly shouldnt...

[ddstoys]

wish i could offer advice or pics but i prolly shouldnt...

Now Rob   dont be like that any advice you can offer may just help fix this one its not your fault  your machine was possesed by the devil and then some LOL 

You will get there Rob if not there is always next time i visit Sydney 

And good luck homebrew.   See how you go with Ninos photos if you still have no luck i might drop in my 2cents when there is a little less Johhny Walker in the system

[Ford Fairlane]

i guess what i meant was that, i can take photos etc ofall my stuff but yeah the posessed pro football i own could have a billion faults so i would only confuse the issue. Would love to help otherwise!

[homebrew]

No worries.  When you get the chance.

Rob, I finished reading your log today.  Hell of a ride.  

Thanks for all the replies.  I never expected to get any responses this quickly.
They are finiky things.  fix one thing, then something else goes wrong that was ok before.
Johnnie Walker sounds like a good idea.

cheers

[Strangeways]

i guess what i meant was that, i can take photos etc ofall my stuff but yeah the posessed pro football i own could have a billion faults so i would only confuse the issue. Would love to help otherwise!

Rob - box it up and send it down to me - Free repair !

[Ford Fairlane]

i guess what i meant was that, i can take photos etc ofall my stuff but yeah the posessed pro football i own could have a billion faults so i would only confuse the issue. Would love to help otherwise!

Rob - box it up and send it down to me - Free repair !

Never thought i'd say this, but i wish i lived in melbourne  this problem would have been fixed a year ago... Generous offer Nino! but shipping would be a killer  looks like im gonna bite the bullet and get Mick B in to sort it out. Was really hoping to fix it myself but its just beyond me! But dont wanna highjack the thread (sorry homebrew). Im sure yours wont be as painfull as mine!

[ajlaird]

But dont wanna highjack the thread (sorry homebrew). Im sure yours wont be as painfull as mine!

We certainly hope not!!!

[homebrew]

I made some progress today.

I replaced some fuses and the headboard works again.
The variable targets still have problems, so I looked through the schematics and thought it was to do with the I Relay.
Turns out the I relay has nothing to do with the vari-targets, but it has a hell of a lot to do with moving the football up the playfield.
The football often doesn't move up the field as it is supposed to, and it frequently sticks on the try line.

I had to slightly adjust the position of a cam on the I relay and the football moved up the field perfectly exactly as it is supposed to.  Unfortunately it only worked a for about 5  minutes, now it is stuck again.  Will have another look tomorrow.

cheers
Mark

[Strangeways]

Good progress, Mark - Do you still need pictures of the Q relay ?