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Offline Caveoftreasures

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WHAT IS THE DREADED BLACK DUST ?
« on: June 16, 2010, 01:07:00 AM »
I wanted to get some opinions.

What is the dreaded black dust inside so many pins from Europe.?
Is this black dust in all machines that come from Europe.? Is it in home use pins as well or just container pins.?

Has anyone purchased a machine from the USA that was a USA only machine and ever got the fine black dust inside it ?

I have heard it is diesel dust/remaining carbon that collects around industrial areas that pinball machines are sitting/being stored in ?

I am hoping for some factual answers versus just guessing. The answer has been driving me nuts for 18 months.

What do u guys believe it really is ? Anyone ever had anything else weird or strange ever delivered inside a machine and where was it from ?  !@# !@#
 
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Re: WHAT IS THE DREADED BLACK DUST ?
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2010, 01:47:27 AM »
all i know is that it is carbon and it is abrasive.
i cannot tell you exactly how it forms
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Re: WHAT IS THE DREADED BLACK DUST ?
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2010, 05:51:52 AM »
The little green men put it there when you're not looking........ :D
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Re: WHAT IS THE DREADED BLACK DUST ?
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2010, 06:22:41 AM »
I go told it was copper oxide, I assume from the coils.
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Re: WHAT IS THE DREADED BLACK DUST ?
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2010, 07:31:41 AM »
No expert here
But I thought it was from the contacts eg targets etc etc
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Re: WHAT IS THE DREADED BLACK DUST ?
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2010, 08:19:36 AM »
get it analyzed Brett, that way you wont be loosing so much sleep  :lol
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Re: WHAT IS THE DREADED BLACK DUST ?
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2010, 12:56:26 PM »
It's the little green men I tell you.......... %.%
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Re: WHAT IS THE DREADED BLACK DUST ?
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2010, 01:25:07 PM »
Quote from: Homepin on June 16, 2010, 12:56:26 PM
It's the little green men I tell you.......... %.%

little green men from paypal maybe  :lol
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Re: WHAT IS THE DREADED BLACK DUST ?
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2010, 05:16:24 PM »


it was me  I did it
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Re: WHAT IS THE DREADED BLACK DUST ?
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2010, 05:21:39 PM »
Quote from: markc on June 16, 2010, 05:16:24 PM


it was me  I did it

you should add bags of it to your pile of crap auctions  :lol
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Re: WHAT IS THE DREADED BLACK DUST ?
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2010, 06:57:36 PM »
Quote from: Extra Ball on June 16, 2010, 05:21:39 PM

you should add bags of it to your pile of crap auctions  :lol

Pile of Black Euro Dust Crap Auction, 0.01 cent start
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Re: WHAT IS THE DREADED BLACK DUST ?
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2010, 07:00:48 PM »
Quote from: pinnies4me on June 16, 2010, 06:57:36 PM
Quote from: Extra Ball on June 16, 2010, 05:21:39 PM

you should add bags of it to your pile of crap auctions  :lol

Pile of Black Euro Dust Crap Auction, 0.01 cent start

dare I say this  %.% but now we know where the coffee comes from

The coffee jokes never die  !^!
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Re: WHAT IS THE DREADED BLACK DUST ?
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2010, 08:05:39 PM »
What is the dreaded black dust inside so many pins from Europe.?
Is this black dust in all machines that come from Europe.? Is it in home use pins as well or just container pins.?

Its in any machine that has had a lot of play....

... its the sooting from arcing across contacts. For the arcing to happen, an electron must leave one side and deposit on the other... this is not however a perfect transaction as the electron ( sometimes more than one) will not deposit completely and sometimes goes astray so to speak. Also known as the Edison Effect, it predicts that often when an electron leaves it will not deposit but will break down ( carbonise), this is also why contacts become pitted.. the pitting causes the Edison Effect to become more frequent.. and so a vicious cycle begins... more sooting and less electrical contact to work from and to.
Edison Effect will occur anywhere that electrons are passed through a medium from one contact to another.

Same effect happens in flouro tubes ( blacking on ends) and also neon tubes... the electrodes gradually over time break down and cause tube failure. In a flouro... approx 12months.. in a neon tube.. approx 10 years or more.

Or it could be diesel inside the machine......???LOL!!!????
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Re: WHAT IS THE DREADED BLACK DUST ?
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2010, 08:16:30 PM »
Quote from: Retropin on June 16, 2010, 08:05:39 PM

Or it could be diesel inside the machine......???LOL!!!????


Whew, for a minute I thought we had a serious answer!!   &&
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Re: WHAT IS THE DREADED BLACK DUST ?
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2010, 08:50:03 PM »
Yep, what Retropin said......good ol carbon emission, dont tell Rudd.....

OR, it could be cocaine, they dye it black these days to avoid detection  :lol :lol :lol

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