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Mould on a '59 model playfield
« on: September 10, 2008, 12:29:58 PM »
Hey guys...

I've got a 1959 Gottlieb Lightning Ball that I'm restoring for a customer, but I need a little help. It has had no playfield glass on it for about 20 years, and there is now mould on the playfield near the flippers. Being this old, it has no clear coat or mylar on it, so I'm wondering what will be the best way to clean it without destroying the artwork?
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Re: Mould on a '59 model playfield
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2008, 12:32:23 PM »

My suggestion would be to attempt to dissolve it using eucalyptus oil... I have not tried this before on a machine this old... Maybe wait for Tony or Gavin to chime in before trying it  :)
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Re: Mould on a '59 model playfield
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2008, 08:40:11 AM »
Be careful of eucalyptus oil, it has many properties and MAY affect the paint.
Id be using a cotton bud tip with a small amount on it and test in a non conspicuous place on the pf. You will need to remove the oil also after use - can use meths for this on a soft rag - itll take out the oils, then wax straight after.
problem with mould is that it stains and the customer may have to live with this if it doesnt come off. The spores can go deep into the pf and the action of getting them out will start to affect the paint.
Do NOT use magic eraser on these old PF's. It WILL start to rub the paint away.
Meths wont harm it or isopropyl, but if in doubt test first. ( has never harmed any of mine)
I havent come across this problem with any of my games, but a method i have used to good effect to remove stubborn dirt is to use meths on a soft cloth and gently rub at it in a circular motion, this will loosen the grime but may not lift it. Then get a make up pad with a lint front, soak in meths ( no too wet so its dripping) and place flat over the area. The osmotic effect of the pad drying and the dirt dissolving action of the meths will lift some if not all the dirt to the surface and into the pad.
 So leave the pad to dry and then take off. This may or may not work - depends how deep the problem is.
You MUST wax straight afterwards though - alcohol will remove the natural oils in the timber also and these need to be replaced.

Good luck, and remember - test first with anything you use on these PF's

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Re: Mould on a '59 model playfield
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2008, 11:31:58 AM »
Thanks Retropin, I'll give it a shot.

I've never had this problem either, which is why I am asking. Cleaned up many a pin over the years, but I admit I am wary of using anything too abrasive on an old playfield like this one.

The Mould seems to be only on the surface, but I'm not 100% on that yet. I'll have a go at it today and let you know the outcome.

Thanks Nino also, but I think I may leave the eucalyptus oil idea alone for this one.

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Re: Mould on a '59 model playfield
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2008, 12:26:01 PM »

Yep - Gavin and tony are the experts in this field.
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Re: Mould on a '59 model playfield
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2008, 01:22:10 PM »
Here's a "before" pic of the mould on the lower section of the playfield. I will post the "after" pic here once it's done.

I don't expect the playfield to come up like new, but it would be nice to have it looking good.

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Re: Mould on a '59 model playfield
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2008, 05:59:27 PM »
Looks like its just surface mould - can see a line through it on that pic.
Wish it was in my hands, i would take GREAT pleasure in cleaning that up

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Re: Mould on a '59 model playfield
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2008, 06:55:29 PM »
Looks like its just surface mould - can see a line through it on that pic.
Wish it was in my hands, i would take GREAT pleasure in cleaning that up

Hmmm, that's an idea. PM me with a quote Retropin.

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Re: Mould on a '59 model playfield
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2008, 07:14:32 PM »
Would love to help you out there, but im Brisbane based. But what would i charge to clean up a game and get her running 100%?? I have no idea, would depend on how many coils needed replacing.

LOL!!! Im the kind of person that would do it for free, so long as i got first refusal if ever it comes up for sale

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Re: Mould on a '59 model playfield
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2008, 08:41:16 PM »
Fair enough. I suppose I'll just have to do it myself then  ;)

I've just spent the last 2 days on it getting it working, and almost there now. It was pretty nasty when I first started. Nothing worked, not even a continuous spinning motor!

I doubt this one will come up for sale any time soon - they guy has owned it for almost 30 years, but it hasn't worked for about 20.

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Re: Mould on a '59 model playfield
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2008, 10:19:58 PM »
Seeing as I'm now posting progress pics, you can follow the rest on this thread...

http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?topic=54.0