how many sales till you a professional / commercial seller

[markc]

with all the talk going around here and whats a reco machine , how many pins sales till you are deemed a commercial seller ?

most know I import  over 500 a year and yes I think that's makes me a commercial seller  , i also have now close to 20 machines at home ( and around the place)  and feel I am a collector too



not sure how to do a Poll

so would it be 10 sales  plus a year ?

20 plus

1 container  ( 25 -37 )

2 containers  or more ?

also  some do it all for cash , some have a ABN

[rads]

I would say that when you buy machines in quantity to sell your are doing it commercially.

[Duckman]

I would say that when you buy machines in quantity to sell your are doing it commercially.

I agree Rads.

Selling off your own collection that you have collected over time or even after a couple months of playing and tinkering is IMO a private sale.

Any machines that are imported or even bought with the intention of turning them over rather than purchased for genuine want of a machine to me is a comercial venture.

Weather it's a truck load or 2,3,4 containers.

My 2 cents..

[FirePower]

Or another way of looking at commercialism - specifically in relation to AP - is what percentage of your posts have an underlying commercial motive.
 

[Caveoftreasures]

I thought the question was "how many machines does it take till you are a professional/commercial seller".

PROFESSIONAL to me would mean you do this full-time for a living and have an ABN etc, A Registered company etc, and know what you are doing.
I am certain companies like Mark C, Bikecity, Ken Priest, Tony Turner, Bumper all fit this professional label. All have been around for years and are fulltime experts I would feel.

COMMERCIAL SELLER could be anyone who sells machines to make money.

The key word here is Professional. You can sell 1 machine or 1000 and be professional.
Anyone can import a container and have a go.Dont mean they are Professional or know what they are doing.

When u have a Professional and Commercial seller combined, you would be dealing with the companies in green. My 2 cents worth.

[markc]

I would say that when you buy machines in quantity to sell your are doing it commercially.

so is that a container ?  or more

20 foot container  is 25 - 37
40 foot  is upto 77

well thats what we get  others might get more if you have Ems , SS   and so on

mark

[markc]

Or another way of looking at commercialism - specifically in relation to AP - is what percentage of your posts have an underlying commercial motive.
 

now would that be most's posts by any sponsor ?  or just the posts in their sections ?

as all my posts have my web sites linked in them I am guessing all my posts are
like anyone who has theres

mark

[rads]

Could be any number.  In my opinion, if you buy them to resell then you are doing it commercially, regardless of the quantity.  Your professionalism is a seperate issue that doen't need to be addressed again.  The title of the thread included professionalism and/commercialism.  I was answering the question in the post.

[markc]

I thought the question was "how many machines does it take till you are a professional/commercial seller".

PROFESSIONAL to me would mean you do this full-time for a living and have an ABN etc, A Registered company etc, and know what you are doing.
I am certain companies like Mark C, Bikecity, Ken Priest, Tony Turner, Bumper all fit this professional label. All have been around for years and are fulltime experts I would feel.

COMMERCIAL SELLER could be anyone who sells machines to make money.

The key word here is Professional. You can sell 1 machine or 1000 and be professional.
Anyone can import a container and have a go.Dont mean they are Professional or know what they are doing.

When u have a Professional and Commercial seller combined, you would be dealing with the companies in green. My 2 cents worth.

hence why it was Commercial  or Professional   ,  both are different
i do agree though anyone who brings in a container of pins and sells them off  is a commercial

and more so the professionals  are  more of a full time , but I can tell you some of the so called back yarders work is  BLOODY GOOD
hence why we advertised here , and will announce 2 more people we are giving some board work to try , and I have offered a member here a full time Job

mark

[markc]

Could be any number.  In my opinion, if you buy them to resell then you are doing it commercially, regardless of the quantity.  Your professionalism is a seperate issue that doen't need to be addressed again.  The title of the thread included professionalism and/commercialism.  I was answering the question in the post.

wasn't meaning to me , more so what people think makes someone commercial , but thanks for the reply  and I do agree 


mark

[rads]

Could be any number.  In my opinion, if you buy them to resell then you are doing it commercially, regardless of the quantity.  Your professionalism is a seperate issue that doen't need to be addressed again.  The title of the thread included professionalism and/commercialism.  I was answering the question in the post.

wasn't meaning to me , more so what people think makes someone commercial , but thanks for the reply  and I do agree 


mark

When I said your I didn't mean your as in you.  Didn't want your (as in yours) thread to go down another path.

[markc]

Could be any number.  In my opinion, if you buy them to resell then you are doing it commercially, regardless of the quantity.  Your professionalism is a seperate issue that doen't need to be addressed again.  The title of the thread included professionalism and/commercialism.  I was answering the question in the post.

wasn't meaning to me , more so what people think makes someone commercial , but thanks for the reply  and I do agree 


mark

When I said your I didn't mean your as in you.  Didn't want your (as in yours) thread to go down another path.

I think I understand .... and agree


thanks

mark

[Pintoxicated]

I would say that when you buy machines in quantity to sell your are doing it commercially.

I agree Rads.

Selling off your own collection that you have collected over time or even after a couple months of playing and tinkering is IMO a private sale.

Any machines that are imported or even bought with the intention of turning them over rather than purchased for genuine want of a machine to me is a comercial venture.

Weather it's a truck load or 2,3,4 containers.

My 2 cents..

Spot on I think.  If a machine/s are bought for the sole purpose of on selling to make a profit that would have to be considered commercial.

I have difficulty with the 'professional' term - to me that means someone or a business that trades or performs at an elite level.  There was one trader in that green section mentioned earlier that whilst commercial I don't think should be classed as professional speaking from mine and others' experience.  Just my honest opinion.

[Strangeways]

OK - I'll bite.

The most professional repairers and restorers do not necessarily work for commercial dealers. This is a myth.

Working for a commercial seller does not automatically bequeath or annoint a pinball backyarder to "Pinball Tech God"

[markc]

OK - I'll bite.

The most professional repairers and restorers do not necessarily work for commercial dealers. This is a myth.

Working for a commercial seller does not automatically bequeath or annoint a pinball backyarder to "Pinball Tech God"

no such thing as a PINBALL TECH GOD

as i said some of the best people are part timers or backyarders

good techs learn everyday !