Jungle Queen 1977 Restore

[JD]

Couple of questions for the Gurus.

I just bought 4 boxes of 555 bulbs but find they are wrong. My error in ordering these. Can someone confirm the bulb type for under the playfield?
Also what do 555's fit? I have 4 boxes that are no use to me?

Also pinball rescue will not make the plastics for me unless they have more demand. Does anyone know where I can get the perspex to make the plastics from? I am thinking of having a go myself.
Otherwise she is going together well.

J.D.

[Retropin]

You need GE44 or #47 bulbs... these are the standard bayonet type.

The perspex can be bought from any sheet supplier... look in you yellow pages under SIGNS.. will have a few local suppliers of acrylic sheet.... standard size is 1220 X 2440mm though, so unless you want a lot, then find a sign guy that will cut you some down.
Youll need 2mm thickness to exactly replace, but i often use 3mm

[JD]

Thanks Gav

That's 2 out of 2.

J.D.

[Strangeways]

You need GE44 or #47 bulbs... these are the standard bayonet type.

The perspex can be bought from any sheet supplier... look in you yellow pages under SIGNS.. will have a few local suppliers of acrylic sheet.... standard size is 1220 X 2440mm though, so unless you want a lot, then find a sign guy that will cut you some down.
Youll need 2mm thickness to exactly replace, but i often use 3mm

+1

Playfield is coming up AWESOME !

[goodolddays]

She's looking pretty Schmik JD 

[Boots]

Couple of questions for the Gurus.

I just bought 4 boxes of 555 bulbs but find they are wrong. My error in ordering these. Can someone confirm the bulb type for under the playfield?
Also what do 555's fit? I have 4 boxes that are no use to me?

Also pinball rescue will not make the plastics for me unless they have more demand. Does anyone know where I can get the perspex to make the plastics from? I am thinking of having a go myself.
Otherwise she is going together well.

J.D.

Why not try LED's, they look great and use much less power with no heat.
If you get warm white the light is fairly close to bulb light.
I have used these in Gottlieb sys1 machines for feature and GI lights and they work great:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140338360011&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

[JD]

Couple of questions for the Gurus.

I just bought 4 boxes of 555 bulbs but find they are wrong. My error in ordering these. Can someone confirm the bulb type for under the playfield?
Also what do 555's fit? I have 4 boxes that are no use to me?

Also pinball rescue will not make the plastics for me unless they have more demand. Does anyone know where I can get the perspex to make the plastics from? I am thinking of having a go myself.
Otherwise she is going together well.

J.D.

Why not try LED's, they look great and use much less power with no heat.
If you get warm white the light is fairly close to bulb light.
I have used these in Gottlieb sys1 machines for feature and GI lights and they work great:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140338360011&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Thanks for your suggestion Boots. I'm afraid i'm a bit too conservative with my Jungle queen and it's originality.

J.D.

[Retropin]

GE47 use less current than the 44 and so give off less heat.

LED use even less current but the amount of power saved is negligable in all honesty... a couple of watts at 6v is piffle.

Coloured LED behind coloured inserts CAN look better as it gives more depth of colour, but any AC ripple can cause strobing and its very irritating.

LED in an EM???  God forbid!

[Mr Pinbologist]

You need GE44 or #47 bulbs... these are the standard bayonet type.

The perspex can be bought from any sheet supplier... look in you yellow pages under SIGNS.. will have a few local suppliers of acrylic sheet.... standard size is 1220 X 2440mm though, so unless you want a lot, then find a sign guy that will cut you some down.
Youll need 2mm thickness to exactly replace, but i often use 3mm

Most sign writers/plastic suppliers will usually sell offcut pieces, usually large enough to make several plastics from, without them having to cut a large sheet (which will cost more). I always use polycarbonate plastic sheet to make pf plastics, as i always thought perspex would be too brittle. I DID find that to be the case when i started trying to make my own plastics, using perspex, i've had them break while trying to drill them for the post screws  Polycarbonate seems to be more durable.

[Retropin]

You need GE44 or #47 bulbs... these are the standard bayonet type.

The perspex can be bought from any sheet supplier... look in you yellow pages under SIGNS.. will have a few local suppliers of acrylic sheet.... standard size is 1220 X 2440mm though, so unless you want a lot, then find a sign guy that will cut you some down.
Youll need 2mm thickness to exactly replace, but i often use 3mm

Most sign writers/plastic suppliers will usually sell offcut pieces, usually large enough to make several plastics from, without them having to cut a large sheet (which will cost more). I always use polycarbonate plastic sheet to make pf plastics, as i always thought perspex would be too brittle. I DID find that to be the case when i started trying to make my own plastics, using perspex, i've had them break while trying to drill them for the post screws  Polycarbonate seems to be more durable.

Theres a knack to drilling plastics.

use a blunt drill bit, or a masonry bit, or use drill in reverse, or place sheet on top of some MDF etc and drill through that way - VERY carefully.

What happens with a  sharp drill bit is that it grabs as it goes through instead of cut.. this causes cracking.

Just at the point of the bit pushing through, you should be drilling very slowly with no push on your part.
 But in all honesty, a blunt bit works best, if i HAVE to use a new bit, i run it up a brick wall first whilst running the drill... just to take the very edge of it.

Youll find any platics worker will have a collection of blunt bits... gold dust to us

[Mr Pinbologist]

You need GE44 or #47 bulbs... these are the standard bayonet type.

The perspex can be bought from any sheet supplier... look in you yellow pages under SIGNS.. will have a few local suppliers of acrylic sheet.... standard size is 1220 X 2440mm though, so unless you want a lot, then find a sign guy that will cut you some down.
Youll need 2mm thickness to exactly replace, but i often use 3mm

Most sign writers/plastic suppliers will usually sell offcut pieces, usually large enough to make several plastics from, without them having to cut a large sheet (which will cost more). I always use polycarbonate plastic sheet to make pf plastics, as i always thought perspex would be too brittle. I DID find that to be the case when i started trying to make my own plastics, using perspex, i've had them break while trying to drill them for the post screws  Polycarbonate seems to be more durable.

Theres a knack to drilling plastics.

use a blunt drill bit, or a masonry bit, or use drill in reverse, or place sheet on top of some MDF etc and drill through that way - VERY carefully.

What happens with a  sharp drill bit is that it grabs as it goes through instead of cut.. this causes cracking.

Just at the point of the bit pushing through, you should be drilling very slowly with no push on your part.
 But in all honesty, a blunt bit works best, if i HAVE to use a new bit, i run it up a brick wall first whilst running the drill... just to take the very edge of it.

Youll find any platics worker will have a collection of blunt bits... gold dust to us

I usually place the plastic down, as you say onto some MDF to drill the holes, while holding the plastic down firmly, and very little pressure on the drill bit. And you're right Gavin, blunter drill bits do work better.

lately I've been using a Dremel to do the holes, using a normal drill bit to do a starter hole, then enlarging with a dremel and a small grinding bit to enlarge to the correct size. Care is still needed so as not to slip and scratch the surface of the plastic with the Dremel bit!

[JD]

Thanks Gents. Really great to be able to tap into your experience and avoid a catastrophe.

Appreciate your advice and help.

J.D.

[Boots]

You need GE44 or #47 bulbs... these are the standard bayonet type.

The perspex can be bought from any sheet supplier... look in you yellow pages under SIGNS.. will have a few local suppliers of acrylic sheet.... standard size is 1220 X 2440mm though, so unless you want a lot, then find a sign guy that will cut you some down.
Youll need 2mm thickness to exactly replace, but i often use 3mm

Most sign writers/plastic suppliers will usually sell offcut pieces, usually large enough to make several plastics from, without them having to cut a large sheet (which will cost more). I always use polycarbonate plastic sheet to make pf plastics, as i always thought perspex would be too brittle. I DID find that to be the case when i started trying to make my own plastics, using perspex, i've had them break while trying to drill them for the post screws  Polycarbonate seems to be more durable.

Theres a knack to drilling plastics.

use a blunt drill bit, or a masonry bit, or use drill in reverse, or place sheet on top of some MDF etc and drill through that way - VERY carefully.

What happens with a  sharp drill bit is that it grabs as it goes through instead of cut.. this causes cracking.

Just at the point of the bit pushing through, you should be drilling very slowly with no push on your part.
 But in all honesty, a blunt bit works best, if i HAVE to use a new bit, i run it up a brick wall first whilst running the drill... just to take the very edge of it.

Youll find any platics worker will have a collection of blunt bits... gold dust to us

Polycarbonate is a lot less brittle than perspex (acrylic) but is does scratch easier.
Using a blunt drill is sort of the right idea because brittle materials need a negative cutting angle otherwise the cutting tool grabs and digs-in.
To do this get any normal drill bit and grind a very small flat on the front cutting edges, this will reduce the risk of the drill grabbing and pulling through the plastic and chipping it.
Also clamp a piece of scrap plastic underneath and that will give you a much cleaner hole.
Using a blunt drill bit may create extra heat and cause a lumpy burred hole instead of a nice clean drilled hole.

[spacejam0]

How is the backglass? I was chasing and found a Jungle Princess back glass in the US in great nic for $125us. Was about to buy it when the seller advised me that he had made a mistake and it was a Jungle Queen backglass. Can give you his details if required.

[JD]

How is the backglass? I was chasing and found a Jungle Princess back glass in the US in great nic for $125us. Was about to buy it when the seller advised me that he had made a mistake and it was a Jungle Queen backglass. Can give you his details if required.

My backglass is fine for what I want but I really appreciate you letting me know about the opportunity.

Many thanks

J.D.