Cue ball Wizard "Double" lights do not work

[infinite1977]

Hey guys, I picked up a Cue ball Wizard machine just recently and have only just managed to have some games on it. After playing it a few times I noticed that all the lights on the "Double" feature which is located on the Apron do not work. As this is the first Gottlieb machine that I have owned and still a novice with pinballs it all looks a little foreign to me :)

I was just wondering if anyone knows if it is just a simple case of bad globes or if it is something else. I have not had a chance to remove the apron just yet, but thought I would throw a post up.

Cheers.

[Retropin]

Basic rule.. start simple and go from there... try globes first.. make sure its not blown.. then make sure you are getting contact with bottom of globe ( quick rub with sand paper to a shine) and also sides - again rub bright with sandpaper.. also squeeze in sides of holder slightly to give a tight grip. If still no go then move to next step

[infinite1977]

Yeah, might have a look under the apron tomorrow. Thanks for the advise. I just did not expect the globes to be blown as the pin was supposed to have had a look over and all globes and rubbers checked and replaced etc. But these things happen I guess

[Rod71]

You'll find that it's actually a board with 6 led's on it and not incandescent bulbs.  Try reseating the connector on this board.

[infinite1977]

Thanks Rod, I will have a look today and see what happens.

[infinite1977]

Ok, next suggestion. I have re-seated the plug on the board and nothing. The Wizard lights are working fine. Would this suggest a faulty board?

[ajlaird]

Yeah, might have a look under the apron tomorrow. Thanks for the advise. I just did not expect the globes to be blown as the pin was supposed to have had a look over and all globes and rubbers checked and replaced etc. But these things happen I guess

Depending on the conditions of the sale, you may well be able to go back to the seller and ask them to fix this?

[infinite1977]

Yeah, I have informed the seller and all this is covered. I am giving him a chance to rectify it. I was just hoping it was something simple, that I could fix. Again, it is just a little frustrating as the machine was sold as being looked over, complete working order, globes and rubbers replaced, but the more I get into it, I notice these things have not been done. I have discovered a screw missing from the cue stick, the inside of the cabinet is filthy, I would have expected it to have been cleaned. The outer cabinet was not even wiped down, now this. I have also asked the seller to send one of his technicians to me if required, as initially it was suggested I take it back to him, which I do not find practical and nor should I have to. I do believe the seller will fix the issues as he does communicate well, so I wont be naming and shaming :)

[Rod71]

is it possible to swap the wizard and double LED boards over to see if it's a board problem, or a problem up stream?.

New boards are available from PBR.

[infinite1977]

Not sure, will check if they have the same lugs on the back and might try that.

[infinite1977]

Rod, pardon the dumb question, but what is PBR, as I am curious to see what a board will cost?

[ajlaird]

The Pinball Resource: http://www.pbresource.com/

Abbreviated to PBR due to first three letters of website URL, I imagine.

[Rod71]

http://www.pbresource.com/boards.html#gtbsys3

Scroll down the page a bit

US$21.60 + shipping and all the hassles of purchasing from this place. 

[infinite1977]

Wow, thanks for that. I see what you mean about the hassle of ordering.

[infinite1977]

I had a look to see if I can change the boards around to see if it was the connectors or the board at fault, but they both have different connectors, so at this stage I am going to stipulate the board is damaged.