Wizard Of OZ Pinball

[Caveoftreasures]

Polar opinions make forums work, its only an opinion.    just like ugly colours on cars at caryards, some people love them, some people hate them. It doesnt matter if someone dislikes WOZ. What matters is that when u get one home PBPete, u will love it and enjoy every minute of it, as will apx 1000 plus others. 

sometimes the word "different" in pinball means people have less than positive opinions. I have bought alot of Sega/Data East games which people have bagged. I didnt listen and bought them all, and if anything, peoples opposite opinions spurred me on, which today, I am very glad they did, cause all these games are excellent.

There has never been a WOZ game before, that makes it different and unique. That makes it attractive to me and others anyway. Some like AC/DC, others dislike it, same with WOZ. Love it, hate it, its all good. People not liking a title doesnt mean u have made a bad decision in buying it, it just means they wouldnt buy it. It wont matter when u are playing your WOZ and enjoying every second of it !
 

[GORGAR 1]

As Nino and Brett said I think the advancement in pinball Jack is creating is awesome and its great for pinball and the WOZ buyers will no doubt love there games, My opinion on theme is just that my opinion and that's what forums are for to have our say.

Peter

[Strangeways]

You and every one else is enyitled to your opinion
But WoZ wad annoinced 14 months ago. I am tired of non buyers comtinual ' The theme sucks'  posts

Yup. I'm aware of that.

I've been planning on buying a NIB title for 3 years. I was close with Ironman. Transformers and Avatar is not my thing, and I'm not a fan of AC/DC or Rolling Stones. So the theme IS relevant and IS the deciding factor as to what I will buy. I don't care if it is a Stern, JPP or whatever.

I will be a committed buyer when the theme is relevant to my tastes. It's a personal thing. I'm sure all the WOZ fans will LOVE this machine, and I'm happy for them. I'll also be aware of the fact that when a manufacturer releases a title with a theme that will attract my hard earned $$, that there will be people that don't like it.

Let's say Stern's next title is "KISS"" - I know pinheads will not like this at all, but I know many wealthy fans will buy the game - sight unseen. I'd buy it - no hesitation. If JPP released a "Dream Theater" Pin - No hesitation - I'd buy it. If either manufacturer developed an "Escape from New York" (my favorite movie of all time) - No hesitation.

Without hijacking the thread too much, my point is that theme is the most important buying decision for me. It's a personal thing. I just wanted to make that clear. I VERY MUCH look forward to playing WOZ.

[Caveoftreasures]

A guy tells his mate his wife is "ugly", the husband replies "yeh, but u arent sleeping with her, so it dont matter does it".lol 

A guy tells his mate his pinball theme "sucks", his mate replies, "yeh but its not in your loungeroom and u aint playing it". lol 

same point, different product. if that makes sense.

[GORGAR 1]

Yep its all about theme for me to-either KISS OR AC/DC and AC/DC came first, imaging if Jack got that licence.

Peter

[Ant68]

A guy tells his mate his wife is "ugly", the husband replies "yeh, but u arent sleeping with her, so it dont matter does it".lol 

A guy tells his mate his pinball theme "sucks", his mate replies, "yeh but its not in your loungeroom and u aint playing it". lol 

same point, different product. if that makes sense.

LOL where do you dig this stuff up from mate 

[Caveoftreasures]

I just made it op on the spot ofcourse.lol    this place can be so serious n dry most of the time. 

[Pop Bumper Pete]

Yep its all about theme for me to-either KISS OR AC/DC and AC/DC came first, imaging if Jack got that licence.

Peter

imagine if Jack had not decided to make WoZ
Do you think Stern would have made acdc, and included the custom tots?

[vinito]

this place can be so serious n dry most of the time.  

Shooda used this smiley --->  

Keep in mind that Jersey Jack is located in the US after all, so with Kansas being smack-dab in the center of the country and the movie being so popular here, it's a more natural thing to assume the theme's appeal would be popular. Kind of like ABBA or ACDC or [insert your favorite Aussie footy team here] or something might be down there. I don't think nationalism has any weight whatsoever in the choice or anything, but the movie (and slot machines) are widely popular here in the states.

I wish I could afford one. Hopefully he keeps churning out future titles with a similarly amazing cast of creators.

[Ant68]

Spoke to Jack today and asked him if he can give me some info on the back glass that I can post exclusivly on the Australian forums .

Cheers Tony


My questions

Will it lift out or be on a hinge?.

lift up and out

Will the LCD be fixed or hinge ?

fixed - 4 screws and out

Is the electrical board behind the LCD .

no

[Ant68]

From JJP forum , RE Texas show
Tony


I was at Jack's seminar at TPF today. Jack invited Steve Ritchie to
come sit in the front row, which SR accepted. They had a funny
exchange at the end, when Jack told Steve that he needed to do better
in his own discussion later, to which Steve said "That shouldn't be
hard." you can tell that they like and respect each other.
New music was played. Equal in quality to what has been previously
released.
3 new animations shown. One of Dorothy being captured by the Flying
Monkeys. One of the Emerald City Multiball locks, and another showing
the Scarecrow, Tinman and Lion locks.
A bit of PF art was shown, on thenHaunted Forest area. It looked
awesome. Lots of purples and blues and darks in that area. The trees
were on the pops and looked great. Jack said that the trees will
"talk" when they are hit.
The PF art hangup is an issue with the Munchkins. He wouldn't go too
far into it, other than to say that they had differing ideas on how to
go about the art regarding the Munchkins. It is not a likeness issue
with any surviving Munchkin, however.
Jack made it clear that there have been some Red Herrings tossed into
the update mix, to keep competition on their toes.
When asked if he had a target date yet, Jack said that "June or July
is probably a pretty good estimate".Oh, Pin #2 is set. No official announcement yet, but it is licensed,
and JJP has the license in the bag. Jack said that there was
competition for the license, but the license holder picked JJP after
seeing what they had accomplished to date.
Pin 2 slated for December 2013 release.
Jack said that the decision to go with the license and design team for
Pin 2 might have upset some people, but that he is still committed to
unlicensed pins in the future. Nordseth getting bumped to #3????
Jack is open to "going to the bullpen" for other pinball designers to
get into the game down the line. Everyone in the room looked at SR,
who probably didn't hear what Jack had said.

[coon82]

Thanks for another update Ant68.
Sounds like the final tick of approval from WB on the playfield is really the main hurdle left to overcome. Must be very frustrating for the JJP team (not just those waiting for the finished pin). All good things come to those who wait....

When asked if he had a target date yet, Jack said that "June or July
is probably a pretty good estimate

Is this when they will start shipping, so it may be a month or so after that before goods arrive in 'OZ'?

Pin #2 is set. No official announcement yet, but it is licensed,
and JJP has the license in the bag. Jack said that there was
competition for the license, but the license holder picked JJP after
seeing what they had accomplished to date.

The Hobbit?

Everyone in the room looked at SR,
who probably didn't hear what Jack had said.

That's funny because it's probably true....

[punter]

After reading that JJ pin number 2 is a done deal in regards to title ect,just checking Tony with the release date being Dec 2013 ?.Is that correct as it seems a long time between pin 1 and pin 2.Do they get the wheels in motion for the second pin very quickly or is it a long process as we are in March 2012.It seems a long time as Stern would most likely have released 5 titles in that time.

[Pop Bumper Pete]

After reading that JJ pin number 2 is a done deal in regards to title ect,just checking Tony with the release date being Dec 2013 ?.Is that correct as it seems a long time between pin 1 and pin 2.Do they get the wheels in motion for the second pin very quickly or is it a long process as we are in March 2012.It seems a long time as Stern would most likely have released 5 titles in that time.

Jack still has to make 1000 le's and who knows how many standard WoZ
The WoZ timeline has blown out more tha most people expeted, i am sure some buyers are getting a little antsy
Jack has said that he would prefer to under promise and over deliver. Maybe the 2013 is so that pople wont expect game#2 to ship a few mlnths after game#1

[Ant68]

Yes you maybe right , he maybe buying some time so people don't expect game 2 in  6 months .
I know what tony means 2013 is a long time away . I'll suss him out 

After reading that JJ pin number 2 is a done deal in regards to title ect,just checking Tony with the release date being Dec 2013 ?.Is that correct as it seems a long time between pin 1 and pin 2.Do they get the wheels in motion for the second pin very quickly or is it a long process as we are in March 2012.It seems a long time as Stern would most likely have released 5 titles in that time.

Jack still has to make 1000 le's and who knows how many standard WoZ
The WoZ timeline has blown out more tha most people expeted, i am sure some buyers are getting a little antsy
Jack has said that he would prefer to under promise and over deliver. Maybe the 2013 is so that pople wont expect game#2 to ship a few mlnths after game#1