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JACKS OPEN PLAYFIELD REPAINT.. FINISHED!!!!!!!!!!!!
« on: January 15, 2011, 06:54:51 PM »
This jacks Open playfield i have been working on for some 18 months now. I took this job on having viewed the PF in person and the job was always going to be a major touch up. Instead it turned into a complete repaint.
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Main areas of concern were at the bottom of the PF where significant paint had come away, some of which had already been hand painted in.
This is what i took on












You can see that the purple has been painted in, detail on the playing cards has disappeared and the paint on the blue in particular is in very bad shape.. also significant areas of wear.

My problems really started when i began rubbing this back to get the paint as smooth as possible... great chunks of paint were just coming away. I lost approx 50% of the paint on this PF before halting the rub back process. I normally do the rub back to remove loose or flakey paint... never in my worst nightmares did i expect to remove half the PF. In the end i got some heavy duty tape, wrapped it around my hand with the sticky side out and went round the whole pF placing it down flat and then lifting off.This took up all the little chunks that were flaking off without removing too much paint as the rub back was doing.
I then gave the whole artwork area of this PF a very very light CC and then left it for several weeks to "case harden"
What this does is place a seal over everything that remains.. any loose paint is held down by the good paint etc. Once this is done it means that i can then use stencils on the pF and not have to worry too much about lifting more paint. Its not a perfect technique... bits still come away, but they are small and manageable.

The large areas of particular colours are stencilled in... this process has been covered by myself and many others on this forum. I use a clear vinyl application tape.. its 600mm wide and comes on a 50M roll.. you can cover a whole PF in one hit and then cut out all single colour areas.

This process, although still time consuming is pretty straight forward and gives good results.

The main parts of a PF restore that take up time are any text and of course the dreaded black lines.
All text is cut by hand with a very very fine brush under a head worn magnifying glass. Its a balance of having the paint the correct consistency so it flows without being thin, but is not too thick that it doesnt do what you want it to do.
Text is cut on the OUTSIDE colour first, so if its in a block yellow background, then this is painted first. What this does is give a very fine lip to the edge of the letter. When you go in with say the black, you can "fill" slightly and due to surface tension, it will stop at this lip. Each colour is cut at least twice.. outside colour... then inside... then outside again... then inside again. Gradually you can build up the text and when you look away, it looks solid.
Heres an example of finished text



All details on playing cards are done the same



Its a time consuming job and not one you can do for extended periods of time as your eyes start to go cranky and your hand starts to shake.... as soon as handshake occurs, im out of there as one mistake can set me back a couple of hours. All up i find that i can do this work for about an hour then have to walk away for an hour and settle my hand and refocus my eyes.

Anyway, eventually, the colours are back and text is looking good





So whats next?? Well its the black lines and its this part that i want to document.
Personally i hate the black lines... they make me nervous, they also make or break your work and define it. Without good solid black lines the work just wont look crisp.
I dont have a fool proof method for this. Ive tried so many.
 Ive used marker pens, which although allow for easier use, i find that the results can be streaky and subject to hand variation. Sometimes ill hand draw a line in.. especially curves. I use a long haired sable pin stripe brush available from sign suppliers.. expensive but very good for the job. Problem is that these tend to work best with a good quality enamel and on this job im using acrylic lacquers.

Most of the lines on this PF are straight... i can use this to my advantage.
Tools for the job are:
Deep Black acrylic lacquer part mixed with retarder thinner ( prevents drying out in the air) and normal all purpose thinner. Consistency should be that it will atomise on low pressure to give a very fine spray and not splutter... must also not be so thin that it runs in on itself at the edges.
Roll of 10mm TAMIYA tape.. this is brilliant stuff... very low tack and gives an excellent seal at the edges.
Waxed back paper from old piece of vinyl backing... allows me to take tape off and put down nearby on a surface that allows  continuous reuse



To my right i have a PF glass standing up... any long pieces of tape are put on here as are any pieces of clear application tape. Ive also got some strips of very low tack stencil vinyl



Example of line being done



Tamiya tape is pit down on either side of the line we want done. Then edges where i want it to stop are in place via some old stencil vinyl. Then 2 long pieces of vinyl arre put down to prevent any overspray that MAY occur.

VERY low pressure is required. An airbrush with flow control is essential as it allows the exact amount of paint to flow. A very fine spray is put down first



This takes literally seconds to dry.
Then the process is repeated... up the line... then down until colour becomes solid. Try and do this with one hit and you risk bleed... normally 4 applications are done



I use the same pieces of tape over and over until an edge is lost... you can see on these pics that ive already lost my edge... something i hadnt noticed until i removed the tape... this is done by pulling the tape right back on itself with an angle so painted edge comes away first



I had to touch up the edge with a fine brush... result here



This process is repeated over the whole PF... the curves ill add later and will document this also. But single line by line, it all starts coming together









Ive done half the PF and need to flip her round to the other side and start again.

This PF has been a huge undertaking.. at times ive just had to walk away from it and then come back. It has bogged me down many times so far.
But.... i can see the results and the end is on the horizon.. and oh boy do i want the end!

Ill update this thread later for the final stages
« Last Edit: August 27, 2011, 05:42:59 PM by Retropin »

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Re: JACKS OPEN PLAYFIELD REPAINT
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2011, 07:21:44 PM »
 Looking great Gav ^^^

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Re: JACKS OPEN PLAYFIELD REPAINT
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2011, 06:56:10 AM »
Hey Gav

Looks UNREAL  $#$ $#$
  well worth the wait.
Been staring at the photos for ages!
Cant wait til its finished   @@* @@*
I know you said it was a lot of work, I didnt realise how much though!!!
Great work mate

Paul
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Re: JACKS OPEN PLAYFIELD REPAINT
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2011, 09:30:48 AM »
Great work Gav, appreciate the detailed info and look forward to seeing more pics.
Cheers
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Re: JACKS OPEN PLAYFIELD REPAINT
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2011, 10:52:27 AM »
great work .... and patience Gav, & thanks for the details.
The 600 mm Vinyl application tape, does it have a particular name/brand and where would I buy it from?
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Re: JACKS OPEN PLAYFIELD REPAINT
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2011, 11:08:51 AM »
Mate,

Just ring up any sign graphic suppliers... Supply One, AGS etc and ask for Clear Application tape 610mm wide in low or low to medium tack.
There are 2 types, 1 is flat clear.. the other textured.
The clear is easier to mask out from as you can see straight through it, it tends to curl when the paint is drying though.
Textured is very slightly opaque ( but still very good visibilty), this doesnt curl as paint dries.
I use the flat clear a lot more than the textured

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Re: JACKS OPEN PLAYFIELD REPAINT
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2011, 11:21:55 AM »
Gav
Many thanks for the detailed step by step guide , plenty of great tips,
Looking forward to the next installment and seeing the finished P/F, good to see a perfectionist at work , a man after my own heart.
If a jobs worth doing , its worth doing well. And you are doing a great job.
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Re: JACKS OPEN PLAYFIELD REPAINT
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2011, 11:22:46 AM »
Gosh I envy people who can do this type of artistic work, nice one Gav!!  ^^^
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Re: JACKS OPEN PLAYFIELD REPAINT
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2011, 11:37:46 AM »
Thanks for posting this Gav. You must be one very very patient bloke .
PF is looking great so far.

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Re: JACKS OPEN PLAYFIELD REPAINT
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2011, 01:48:15 PM »
This is just fantastic work, Gav. It aint an easy thing to do (bring back a playfield) but this is looking just great for where it's up to. Well done, and good luck with the dreaded black lines. I look forward to some pics when this playfield is finished. I bet you just about dream of 'Jacks Open' at this stage of the game. Cheers, Mark

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Re: JACKS OPEN PLAYFIELD REPAINT
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2011, 09:58:21 PM »
Hi Gav

How is she progressing?
hope the black lines arent causing you to much grief!!

Paul

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Re: JACKS OPEN PLAYFIELD REPAINT
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2011, 09:16:53 AM »
What a huge job you've taken on , the playfield looked horrible to start with and if i had the skills to do this type of restoration (Which i don't ) , i would have thought twice about attempting it.
The work done so far looks fantastic and i look forward to seeing how it turns out.

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Re: JACKS OPEN PLAYFIELD REPAINT
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2011, 09:33:49 AM »
Im actually very close to having this completely finished. I wont deny this has now become an exercise in discipline rather than skills. I am honestly sick of looking at it... isnt 1mm that i havent covered.
The black lines around the card inserts is such slow work, but 90% complete.
Im actually chasing down some new CC that is now on Australian market. Ive seen the finished product on other applications and its sensational. I dont need a 25ltr drum though.

... Yes... its been a HUGE task!

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Re: JACKS OPEN PLAYFIELD REPAINT
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2011, 10:18:24 AM »
Im actually very close to having this completely finished. I wont deny this has now become an exercise in discipline rather than skills. I am honestly sick of looking at it... isnt 1mm that i havent covered.
The black lines around the card inserts is such slow work, but 90% complete.
Im actually chasing down some new CC that is now on Australian market. Ive seen the finished product on other applications and its sensational. I dont need a 25ltr drum though.

... Yes... its been a HUGE task!

Don't blame you mate. I've hit a wall on the Aces High, although my problem is color matching. I'll be interested to see how the new CC works with playfields. Are you going to test it's application on another playfield. I'd HATE to see another "Bank-A-Ball" fiasco.
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Re: JACKS OPEN PLAYFIELD REPAINT
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2011, 10:37:33 AM »
LOl- that PF is next after my backlog of work ive got.

The new CC is awesome stuff... had a good mate in sign industry make 20 odd 3M panels with 2 pac grey and vinyl text over the top. he sent them off to get CC'd and it ate the edges of the vinyl. result was that ALL work was rejected and had to be done again. Aluminium panels were rubbed back.. resprayed... all new vinyl and then CC'd again.
But this time the spray painter used a WATER based 2 pac CC... its new on the market here, but been in Europe etc fo a while now. Its guaranteed NOT to eat any other paint etc.. comes in Gloss, Satin, Matt etc.

Im trying to find a smaller quantity that 25ltrs to purchase.
When i get it ill post on here just what it is,,,, is PERFECT for all of us