The Aussie Pinball Arcade
Aussie Pinball Forums => Restorations => Topic started by: Supremicus on October 20, 2009, 05:26:13 PM
-
Well needed a new project so when a getaway project pin came up i couldn't resist since it's one i've wanted for awhile. Appears to be some water damage or something on the front with the previous owner doing some weird repair job as seen down the page. So far i've only found a couple of wear spots, so when i get that far i'll see if i can get some suggestions on how to repair them. Judging by how much dirt and cigarette ash i've found in the playfield while stripping it down so far makes me wonder if it had ever been cleaned.
-
Playfield before i started stripping and part progress of stripping.
-
That should clean up very nicely....I used a TreasureCove kit on my Getaway playfield and it gave very good results (mine is in resto section here).
Re the front panel...Hmm. I would assume you're planning on decaling the machine? If so, I depending on level of damage might be too much to fill. If the coin door piece can be removed cleanly, maybe worth taking to a cabinet maker to see if they can make a new one? Or if you're handy on the tools DIY!
-
Now that what I call a "project" - I'd be looking to replace the front and bottom panels if possible as per Marty's suggestion.
Playfield looks nice !
-
Yeah once i've finished pulling the playfield out the cab is going into the shed to see what i can do, most likely i'll knock the front off and cut a new one.
-
Great game, I love playing Matt's (KTM450), best of luck with the restoration.
-
With one of Marks cheap doors it will come up like new!
Great fun game and I love cheat mania!
-
Got too dark over at the machine to finish stripping the playfield so figured i'd camp infront of the tv and start polishing the supercharger ramps. Looks so much better than the lovely tarnished dirty look it had before.
-
Coming along nice-I'll be interested to see how you tackle the front panel.
Peter
-
Cab decals turned up this morning, so it was enough to motivate me to get the playfield and harness out this afternoon so i could get started on the cab. Dosn't the cpu board look yummy, i think i'll bite the bullet and get a new one (amazingly the machine ran fine). Getting the playfield out allowed me to see what the metal plate on the front of the cab was for, as you can see theres a nice chunk of wood missing completely, looks like i'll be making a whole new front.
-
Decals look good. I assuming you'll use a coin door filler when installing? Its a must have!
BTW it looks like someone actually used a jig saw to cut around to get the old door off? Novel way if you loose the key!..
-
Yeah marty i'll get a new coin door, more concerned about fixing the cab first. Pic of the plate and door taken off.
-
That front panel looks like be a REALLY big challenge, but I'm sure it will work out well. Just take your time !
The CPU board looks like it has had a few repairs !
-
Shouldn't be too bad a job provided i can get 18mm plywood in town, which i see as the bigger problem so hopefully mitre 10 or home hardware will have some when i look tomorrow. Then its just a matter of removing the old piece, cutting the new piece, getting the joints right then attaching it. Cabinet is bare right now, just have to detach the backbox. The sub is absolutely perished so i'll just have to put up with the pinball pro speaker kit (sarcasm :P) after hearing the difference of it in my dr who i'd love to put the kit in every dmd i buy.
-
Looks to have had alot of moisture in the cab at some stage. Whats under the PF look like?
Ranex time!
-
Under the pf is the cleanest part of the whole machine, only the usual dirt from the coils etc other than that no damage. The sides will be an easy patch up, just looks like it was dragged around alot without any legs on.
-
Looks like whomever hacked the front of the cab removed the divider that goes behind the cashbox too! I am looking forward to viewing your progress!
-
Yeah john, i'll most likely cut a new divider out while the front is off so i can maneuver it in since theres some give in the walls atm.
Not much to show right now but i've started cutting out the new front panel, almost sits flush but theres some little bits from the old front stuck on the walls that i need to trim off. Stopped for the day it's way too overcast right now to see well in the shed. Oh nino did you have the guide on cutting new angled blocks for the legs ? Think i remember seeing something on AA about it a long time ago.
-
This thread ?
http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?topic=98.0
Pleased with your results - Doing well ^^^
-
Thats it thanks mate. The old pieces seperated at the bolt holes so i gotta make new ones ^.^
-
Slowly progressing, left on the front to do is mount lockdown and get a file to do the leg holes.
-
Looking great. ^^^
-
I'm impressed with the cab work and the pro football cabinet! Would love to have woodworking skills!
-
Cab is now fixed & nice a square again. Sanding, filling, painting & decals to go &&
-
Thats really well done ^^^
-
Wow. Thats some very nice work there. Very neat and looks 100% factory (probably better).
-
Top Job ^^^ ^^^
Very well done.
-
Nice!
-
One side filled and sanded, ready to be sealed. Other side wasn't as badly damaged so it won't take long.
-
Lookin good! You'll be running the red light in no time!
-
Slowly getting there. Inside, top and back have had a few coats of paint. Sealing the sides and front tomrrow, Will hopefully have it decaled on the weekend if everything goes according to plan.
-
Very nice work indeed. Looking forward to seeing this finished.
Are you planning to go the wet or dry method for decals?
-
i've had more success in the past doing it wet so i'll do it the same way
-
Nice.
At least you'll have a coin door filler left over from your handy wood work too!.
-
Outstanding !
Using the "wet" method - Do you apply a sealer or clear coat to the bare wood ?
-
Yeah nino theres a guide at http://www.robertwinter.com/pinball/restorations/cc/cabinet/index.html only difference is i use a water based varnish instead since it has a much quicker drying time and easier cleanup.
-
Treasure cove kit arrived this morning, gonna have fun playing with that :D so did my sling plastics. Had some free time this morning so whipped up a replacement sticker in illustrator since wayne won't answer emails ^.^ I've attached if anyone wants to use it for their own projects
-
Nice work.
Are you doing the smaller one which sits on top of the backbox too?
-
The TC kit will work very very well on your playfield. Its just messy!
-
Havn't started on the back box yet but if there is one there i'll redo it aswell.
-
Can't see the sticker you're talking about marty, can you take a pretty level photo and give me outside dimensions and i'll redo it
-
Mines gone (worn right out). AFAIK on all WMS WPC games ontop of the back box was the smaller sticker with s/n on it - identical to those on the driver board and CPU. If all yours are missing I'll remove one and scan for you.
-
Ah the tiny warranty void if removed sticker, yeah it's only on a couple of my boards. none on the backbox whatsoever. I'll redo it tomorrow should be a quick job.
-
This the one marty ?
-
Yup, thats it.
Great work.
-
3 coats of varnish with sanding in between, then sanded level & black sprayed around the edges. Now she's ready to be decaled tomorrow.
-
Great work. Cannot wait to see the photos with the decals on!
-
some great threads here with re decalling work - Keep it up ^^^
-
Cheated and started last night &&
-
Wow. What a difference!...Looks great.
-
Very nice! Doesn't even look like the same machine!
-
Definitely worth it!
-
Yeah john, i'll most likely cut a new divider out while the front is off so i can maneuver it in since theres some give in the walls atm.
Not much to show right now but i've started cutting out the new front panel, almost sits flush but theres some little bits from the old front stuck on the walls that i need to trim off. Stopped for the day it's way too overcast right now to see well in the shed. Oh nino did you have the guide on cutting new angled blocks for the legs ? Think i remember seeing something on AA about it a long time ago.
where did you end up getting the ply wood from and how much?
-
Great Job wouldnt know it was a write off before all your work ^^^
-
Yeah john, i'll most likely cut a new divider out while the front is off so i can maneuver it in since theres some give in the walls atm.
Not much to show right now but i've started cutting out the new front panel, almost sits flush but theres some little bits from the old front stuck on the walls that i need to trim off. Stopped for the day it's way too overcast right now to see well in the shed. Oh nino did you have the guide on cutting new angled blocks for the legs ? Think i remember seeing something on AA about it a long time ago.
where did you end up getting the ply wood from and how much?
mitre 10, could only get a full sheet was $67
-
thanks
i will check if my local mitre 10 carries it.
i would have bought a sheet for the jokerz if i new it was that cheap.
when i was trying to buy a replacement piece for the jokerz the cheapest i could find for was just over $100.
didn't think to try at mitre 10 as most places i rang said it was rare for companies to stock it.
but i think they where wrong.
-
Bunnings seem to carry a decent range of plywood - would they have what is required as well?
-
Bunnings seem to carry a decent range of plywood - would they have what is required as well?
Last time I checked they didn't carry the 16mm ply. 8 or 10mm was the thickest I think.
-
Possibly but don't have a bunnings out here, if i couldnt get it locally i would have had to drive over to rockhampton. I was surprised to be honest can't get 18mm mdf anywhere here but they had ply on the shelf.
-
Bunnings seem to carry a decent range of plywood - would they have what is required as well?
Last time I checked they didn't carry the 16mm ply. 8 or 10mm was the thickest I think.
Ah, OK, which Bunnings was that?
-
So my legs and heavy duty leg brackets finally turn up today 2 weeks later and low and behold no frigging leg levellers. (Guess where from, wasn't from mark. Altho i wish i waited and got them from him)
-
Cabinet is now inside with legs on & black pincab protectors, looks pretty damm sexy if i say so myself but i might be biased ;) . Ground braid all redone and installed heavy duty leg brackets for extra sturdiness. And my nice assortment of parts, decided to get a red start button instead of the yellow to try and keep the colors the same but theres no start printed on it guess i'll have to make a sticker of some sorts.
-
No your not biased that does look sweet as ^^^
-
Looking good, don't forget a new supercharger from RTBB and a new door to top it all off.
-
That pin looks sweet.
I watched the promo video for the first time the other day. Excellent pin and Excellent work on the cabinet.
Definately a keeper.
-
You may be able to get the plastic 'start' insert out of the old start button. Very nice!
-
Thanks for the tip john, i'll have to find where i put the old button lol
-
Can anyone tell me what this thing is, looks like it was attached as an afterthought for some reason. Will there be any dramas if i remove it completely. The wires for it are attached to 1 leg of the fuse and the other to the filter circled in red.
-
A guess would be a service outlet from the country where it was exported to?
-
haha now that you mention it, it does look like a power point. i'll get rid of it then.
-
A guess would be a service outlet from the country where it was exported to?
Definitely in agreement on that one.
-
Yup, a hacked in convenience outlet. Safe to remove, and probably best that you do!
-
Cleaned and painted the hinges, they came up a treat. Stripped and sanded the backbox, have started filling. Poor thing has quite a few chips on the edges and has had previous repair done before so i've removed the old putty & cleaned the areas for filling.
-
Should come up a treat! Did you paint the brackets off the gun or with a can? They look very nice.
-
Can. My air compressor is horrible and has a broken water trap so it's useless for painting lol
-
Very nice. ^^^
What product did you use for filling ?
-
k&h pro build builder's filler, fluro green tin.
-
Can't wait to hear the engine start up and idle through that! Old woofer on the right so you can see the size difference. One side filled and ready to go, other side isn't as bad so won't take long depending on this heat. It's worse than a sauna in the shed right now.
-
Very cool indeed. I've been toying with the idea of a speaker kit for the HS2...I'll be interested as to your thoughts once its in! Make sure you give it a really good rev (with the flippers) before shooting the ball!
-
I think it'll sound good with the sub!
I was playing CV yesterday, and thought to myself, this game needs a sub!
-
Backbox painted and decaled, now i have to clean and paint 20 odd bolts wish i had a tumbler. Cleaned up the rails and installed, also cleaned up the leveller and put new decals on. Slowly starting to look like a pinball again.
-
Looking very very nice.
With the bolts, I put them into my cordless drill (thread end in) and spin at full speed with head into a scotch bright pad (with a bit of isocol alcohol)...They come out better than a tumbler.
-
Looking very very nice.
With the bolts, I put them into my cordless drill (thread end in) and spin at full speed with head into a scotch bright pad (with a bit of isocol alcohol)...They come out better than a tumbler.
Tumbler does not always do the job on leg bolts - I've never been that happy with the results. I use the buffing wheel on my bench grinder with the white compound - works a treat !
Awesome looking HS 2 - Looking GREAT ^^^
-
Got the bolts all cleaned and painted yesterday. Replaced the motor on the mars lamp last night and had to redrill a hole to mount the motor, screw head snapped off when i went to remove it. Reinstalled everything into the backbox this afternoon.
-
Damn man that looks great you must be stoked
-
Yep, looking better every day. Cannot wait to see the original photos lined up next to the current!
Is that Mr Schnitzel von Crumb in the background supervising??!
-
haha yeah he likes to keep an eye on me, didn't realise he was in the photo.
-
Started on the playfield today. Loving the treasure cove kit, the playfield is not going to be perfect but most of the badly ground in ball lines are coming up pretty good. Pics are before and after.
-
that cabinet looks absolutely amazing. love the dog (schnitzel lol) in the background.
u know, the price of these pins just went up alot now that everyone knows cabinet decals are avail and the machine can come up a treat.
this pin seems to be getting more and more in demand every day. looks bloody great. well done on a great resto.
I cant wait to see the finished job. ^^^ ^^^ ^^^
-
I can't wait to play the finished job lol, i'll deffinently be keeping this one. With any luck the coindoor will be here tomorrow but i'm not holding my breath with aus post, other than that everything else is back in the cabinet hooked up ready to go bar the playfield which i will hopefully have polished completely and all the coil brackets etc cleaned, new coils installed that need to be changed etc by the weekend. Then the fun part of cleaning and flattening the old plastics and cleaning and reassembly of all the playfield parts.
-
Don't know if you guys can see the difference real clearly, but first photo was the playfield after it was cleaned with shellite before polishing and wax (you can see the scratches it had sort of). 2nd photo is after treasure cove kit then waxing, blacks and colours really stand out now. Now onto cleaning all the parts and reassembly.
-
Looking great. I have my HS2 the same treatment with the TC kits and it came up a treat.
You've turned a very worn machine back to near new!
-
Very nice!
I miss my getaway, must find another. Such a great game. You're really going to enjoy playing this one!
-
Spent the afternoon regraining all the metal rails and installing, finishing off the rest of the posts now. Cliffy hole protector on the tunnel installed + nice new rubber on the bumper at the back of the hole. Installed all new targets last night, old ones were all discolored and completely worn out. Still quite alot of parts cleaning to do, plus i need to clean and flatten all the plastics. With any luck my switches and flipper kit will be here friday if not monday then i can get the playfield back in the cab.
-
Supercharger ramp ready to go. New magnet coils, new opto's, new decal, cleaned harness, cleaned, regrained and polished ramp.
-
That's purty!
Gonna get one of these?
http://mad-amusements.com/product.php?id_product=1210 (http://mad-amusements.com/product.php?id_product=1210)
Were the magnets bad on your machine? I have 1 spare coil in my parts bucket for Getaway, picked it up in an odd lot of parts. I've had 2 and neither ever had a bad magnet.
-
Yeah got one coming from rtbb my old one was thrashed only 1 screw mount wasn't broken. One magnet didn't work when i did the initial test when i got the machine and to be honest the coils looked sh*t and they were wrapped in masking tape of all things. Figured i'd play it safe and replace them since they were cheap enough to get new ones of anyway.
-
Yeah got one coming from rtbb my old one was thrashed only 1 screw mount wasn't broken. One magnet didn't work when i did the initial test when i got the machine and to be honest the coils looked sh*t and they were wrapped in masking tape of all things. Figured i'd play it safe and replace them since they were cheap enough to get new ones of anyway.
Where did you source these?
-
bay area to fill up the prepaid box, mark also sells them aswell.
-
Looks like a completely different machine. Well done !
-
Flipper assemblies rebuilt & new coils, should be nice and strong for quite some time. Repairing some switches now and should hopefully have the playfield back in the cabinet tomorrow.
-
Nothing like a nice, snappy rebuilt pair of flippers!
-
Supercharger ramp ready to go. New magnet coils, new opto's, new decal, cleaned harness, cleaned, regrained and polished ramp.
Did you find your supercharger decal in Australia? None of the local guys have them listed, was going to swap mine while it is out.
-
Marco has them for about $7aud.
Got the playfield in this afternoon, wired it all up. Is working a treat right now except for the mars lamp, will have to get the meter out to see if it's getting power. The pinball pro speaker kit sounds amazing in it. Need to finish cleaning plastics and flattening them, installing leds into the inserts then reassemble everything else.
-
Great work!
Is the lamp coming on but motor not spinning or nothing at all?
-
Nothing at all.
*Edit*
No power to it at all from the driver board so hopefully it's just a fuse, i'll check it out tomorrow when theres light.
-
Alrighty F103 was blown which is for solenoid 25-28 and the mars lamp is 27 so i'll see if i can get a replacement fuse from jaycar today to see if i can have a win.
-
Sigh now theres only 8v going to the mars lamp and 0v on the other line, but 8v on each line going to the triac board from the driver board. Fun fun fun. Also going to have to look at the sound board, with the speakers connected or disconnected the amp gets way too hot in no time at all. Also the switch on the tunnel wasn't working was a rooted diode, fixed that now the coil on it has stopped working altogether.
-
Did you rebuild the driver board at all (ie caps+BR's). What are the voltages like on the TP's on it?
-
No didn't rebuild it yet because i think theres more problems on the board that a cap and br replacement won't fix eg one of the transistors has a broken leg etc. Trying to diagnose problems at the moment to see if its either a wiring fault or it can be traced back to the driver board then i'll go from there.
-
I've been there before. I try to make all my games work 100% before I take them apart anymore - but I have several that are torn down with playfields off being restored that were never played before I tore them down.
-
Ok i've traced the couple of problems back to the driver board so i'll sort out my list of components and get them ordered to fix it up. Have finished assembling most of the playfield so that's done and out of the way, and with any luck once the driver board is repaired everything will be ready to go. 2nd photo is so you can see the led's, I quite like it &&
-
Success! The supercharger opto's are all working now, i could watch it spin that ball around all night lol. Left to get working is the eject coil and 3 lights.
-
Can someone with a getaway tell me what pin number their red/white wire is on the J106 connector, the manual is giving 2 different numbers J106-3 & J106-5. Should be the turn on wire for the triac board which is why mine isn't turning on.
-
I will take a look in the morning and post back - I have a complete beacon assy from a parted Getaway, and it has the wiring harness. It worked when the getaway was parted, so I know it's right.
-
Here's a pic of mine ^^^ i think i got the right 1, so i guess it's 5??
-
Glad someone had a pic.. I checked, and my box o getaway parts has the resistor board, the triac board, the cable that connects them, but not the cable that runs to the driver board :(
-
Cheers pinmadd
*Edit*
Sweet working mars lamp now && repaired the driver board aswell so now the eject hole is working
-
No prob's bro ^^^
-
WOW - LEDs are quickly becoming very popular, and this looks to be ANOTHER game that are suited to LEDs. I guess it is also a placement decision - Where are they most appropriate.
Nice game - really enjoyed the progress here ^^^
-
wow just read this thread now......excellent work. ^^^
-
Thanks fellas. Finally tracked down the broken wire that was stopping the couple of lights working, it broke off the daisy chain at the supercharger sign so that is now fixed and everything is finally working as it should with no errors. Basically all finished now except for the sound board which might be here in the morning since aus post will be open, sent it to Tony to be repaired just incase it was an ic or something i couldn't test. Put the backbox light board in this afternoon with its leds, cleaned the backglass and put it back in. The led kit from cointaker came with 2 nice really high powered led's for the headlights on the backglass, the photo dosn't do it justice. So now a before and after photo and a shot of all the leds on so people can decide if they'd want it for theirs. Thanks to Tony Turner for the great project pin and his help with questions & repairing my sound board, and thanks to all you guys who helped with input over the whole restoration.
-
I'm "floored" - VERY nice mate ^^^
That simply does not look like the same machine. The front door panel was always going to be a challenge, but you have done a great job in fixing it.
Amazing restoration - some really impressive work done on this game. The LEDs just "top it off" - especially in the last shot with the flash off.
Congrats !
@@* @@* @@*
-
Very nice work. Completely different game now :) This HS2 resto and a friends stateside make me miss HS2 even more!
So, what is next?
-
Hopefully a holiday will be next, should allow me to visit a few places and see what kind of machines i can score ;)
-
Great result mate ^^^
I'm usually not a huge fan of leds but they do look good in your machine *%*