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Aussie Pinball Forums => Restorations => Topic started by: ktm450 on December 15, 2008, 03:41:19 PM
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Here are a few photos of my TZ restoration. Got it home played half a game to check everything was working then started stripping playfield down.
Here are a few before photos:
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Bally%20Twilight%20Zone%20Restoration/zRIMG0890.jpg)
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Bally%20Twilight%20Zone%20Restoration/zRIMG0891.jpg)
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Bally%20Twilight%20Zone%20Restoration/zRIMG0892.jpg)
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Check out the clock housing!
Someone had gone to town on it with a can of black spray paint, there was a little bit of overspray on the playfield, plastics glass and metal bits !@#
It was fairly easy to remove. Inside I found out why it was painted black, half a tub of wheel bearing grease had been poured inside to 'lubricate' the gears @.@
It had been loved though there was polish splatter left everywhere a rag couldn't reach.
Unfortunately all the metal posts were corroded, looked like this pin was sitting on the ships deck rather than safely inside the container
Check out the last photo with the magnet, I'll tell you something very stupid I did a little later. You can also see some of the corrosion I had to tackle in this photo.
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Bally%20Twilight%20Zone%20Restoration/zRIMG0916.jpg)
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Bally%20Twilight%20Zone%20Restoration/zRIMG0919.jpg)
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So every thing was stripped off for the playfield clean up and polish
Before:
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Bally%20Twilight%20Zone%20Restoration/zRIMG1084.jpg)
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Bally%20Twilight%20Zone%20Restoration/zRIMG1085.jpg)
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Bally%20Twilight%20Zone%20Restoration/zRIMG1086.jpg)
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A bit of elbow grease, Nifti, ME, Novus2, Mothers hard carubana wax and here is the result
After:
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Bally%20Twilight%20Zone%20Restoration/zRIMG1141.jpg)
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Bally%20Twilight%20Zone%20Restoration/zRIMG1142.jpg)
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Bally%20Twilight%20Zone%20Restoration/zRIMG1146.jpg)
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So here is a list of what was done:
-replaced clock housing and lens
-replaced clock decal
-modified clock to LEDs
-replaced all coil sleves
-replaced all rubbers
-replaced all star posts
-flame polished ramp
-replaced decal under ramp
-replaced plastic above ramp
-replaced slingshot plastics
-made plastic protectors for slings, rocket, slot mach and piano
-removed and polished every post and every screw as all had surface corrosion
-a couple of small touchups
-PF completely stripped down cleaned polished and waxed
-new globes
-inserts cleaned from below playfield
-fixed a raised insert
-rebuilt all flippers, new bats, new plungers, links, and pawls. New coild sleeves and flipper bushings
-rebuilt all targets, the back plates were all too coroded to fix, so I had to make new stronger ones from stainless steel, new foam backing
-Made a stronger target for the always hammered slotmachine target using stainless steel 10mm x 10mm square section, milled back off to make a 'u' shape then milled at an angle to finish off
-replaced pop bumper metal rings
-replaced pop bumper caps
-replaced pop bumper wafers
-replaced a few coils that were the incorrect ratings
-re-blued the spring steel flaps on the entrance to all ramps
-re-blued the one way gate flaps
-all new hex-screws
-replaced lane guide
-removed the magnets and machined the face that sits level with the PF (stupid idea, DO NOT do this, machining was ok and they look fantastic, BUT the windings of the magnet started to unwind with the cardboard removed and I started to get a bit of a birdsnest going on, had to take 5 before I flipped out and calmly put it all back together again!)
-new improved trough proximity sensor
-replaced leg bolts
-reproduction translight
-changed the wedge sockets to #47 sockets on the flashing globes in the backbox to accept the more commonly available #455 globes
-added the colour changing led on the '?' and 'clock millions' globes (this is the only mod I will do as I hate the gumballs and all the 'happy meal' mods that people go overboard with)
-cleaned powerball
-New leg bolts and levelers
-added 5 new mirror glazed balls
-replaced LHS backbox speaker
-removed factory mylar with new mylar
More after pics:
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Bally%20Twilight%20Zone%20Restoration/zRIMG1290.jpg)
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Bally%20Twilight%20Zone%20Restoration/zRIMG1297.jpg)
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Bally%20Twilight%20Zone%20Restoration/zRIMG1298.jpg)
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Bally%20Twilight%20Zone%20Restoration/zRIMG1299.jpg)
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more:
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Bally%20Twilight%20Zone%20Restoration/zRIMG1300.jpg)
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Bally%20Twilight%20Zone%20Restoration/zRIMG1330.jpg)
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Bally%20Twilight%20Zone%20Restoration/zRIMG1331.jpg)
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Bally%20Twilight%20Zone%20Restoration/zRIMG1334.jpg)
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a couple more: ((( *)*
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Bally%20Twilight%20Zone%20Restoration/zRIMG1348.jpg)
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So these first two photos show the magnets turned out (no pun intended) after I machined them in the lathe. DO NOT even thing about doing this, I was almost in tears when coils of copper started unwinding from the middle as the cardboard sandwiching it all together slipped apart !!! but the end result was worth it *%*
the last pic show the reinforced target I machined up from a piece of 10mm x 10mm stainles steel square section tube.
Unbelieveable feeling playing that first game, could not wipe the smile off my face, all that hard work paid off ()
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Bally%20Twilight%20Zone%20Restoration/zRIMG1349.jpg)
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Bally%20Twilight%20Zone%20Restoration/zRIMG1350.jpg)
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Bally%20Twilight%20Zone%20Restoration/zRIMG1368.jpg)
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OUTSTANDING !
That's one really nice restoration. I'll bet she plays like new..
$%$
Roughly how many hours were involved (I'll bet you stopped counting)...
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Farking hell, that is one outstanding restoration! Top effort, how much do you want for the machine? !^!
$%$]
Matthew
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Looks Great!!
You need these to finish it off: (shameless plug, though they are a free download)
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff201/rgpimage/TZ/TZ5BFP.jpg
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff201/rgpimage/TZ/TZ3BFP.jpg
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff201/rgpimage/TZ/TZinstr.jpg
Here's a pic of them in my apron:
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff201/rgpimage/TZ/TZ-apron.gif)
oops. The apron pic is a version from earlier that day. Links above are for a bit better version (IMO).
The scratchy-looking stuff is my beat up PF glass.
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OUTSTANDING !
That's one really nice restoration. I'll bet she plays like new..
$%$
Roughly how many hours were involved (I'll bet you stopped counting)...
I did stop counting mate, in between looking after my three young boys, i'd try to get out to the shed every now and then to do a little bit, I did a lot of polishing at work on the buff and rebuilt the whole Mini playfield at work. but other than that it took 4 months to complete. I was toey as waiting for a game as I hadn't even played one full game before stripping down.
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Farking hell, that is one outstanding restoration! Top effort, how much do you want for the machine? !^!
$%$]
Matthew
Thanks mate, not for sale :lol took me too long to find one in need of a restoration without paying mega bucks
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Looks Great!!
You need these to finish it off: (shameless plug, though they are a free download)
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff201/rgpimage/TZ/TZ5BFP.jpg
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff201/rgpimage/TZ/TZ3BFP.jpg
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff201/rgpimage/TZ/TZinstr.jpg
oops. The apron pic is a version from earlier that day. Links above are for a bit better version (IMO).
The scratchy-looking stuff is my beat up PF glass.
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Thanks Vinito, I do need some cards for it, they do look good mate ^^^
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Farking hell, that is one outstanding restoration! Top effort, how much do you want for the machine? !^!
$%$]
Matthew
Thanks mate, not for sale :lol took me too long to find one in need of a restoration without paying mega bucks
PM sent %$%
Matthew
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I'd hate to be the only one knocking the project but those AFTER shots are terrible. The Glare coming off the playfield is just shocking...Oh....that's supposed to happen coz of the shine coming off the machine...right.....LOL. On a serious note, brilliant effort, you've gotta be pleased, but tell me...why did you stop at only doing those few points listed, I'm sure you could think of others to do, Jeez there is 24 hours in a day you know LOL. Great work and will be copying some of the little niceties you've done.
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Absolutely stunning, Nice work ! #*#
KTM, were the switch covers cleaned or acquired ?
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Great work!
Can't find that PM inviting me over for that game or ten... !@#
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Great work!
Can't find that PM inviting me over for that game or ten... !@#
The invitation has finally been sent to you and Nuggy &&
Hope you guys can make it, if not we'll arrange another day
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Absolutely stunning, Nice work ! #*#
KTM, were the switch covers cleaned or acquired ?
They were cleaned with Novus 2 came up like new. The black ones are new from BAA, they are too big though, just on there until I find the original grey ones
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Great work KTM. You should look at producing those slot machine target brackets, I'm sure you'd be able to sell a few to other TZ owners.
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Pm sent, a little mod I made to add the finishing touch to your pin, have given a couple to other TZ owners.
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The invitation has finally been sent to you and Nuggy &&
Hope you guys can make it, if not we'll arrange another day
Be there with bells on Matt! Hopefully can drag nuggy away from Coconut Island long enough too.
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Great work KTM. You should look at producing those slot machine target brackets, I'm sure you'd be able to sell a few to other TZ owners.
Yeah if anyone wants one let me know. I'd be happy to pump a few out. *%*
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Pm sent, a little mod I made to add the finishing touch to your pin, have given a couple to other TZ owners.
Thats a great idea Dave, I think I'll do that mate ^^^
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The invitation has finally been sent to you and Nuggy &&
Hope you guys can make it, if not we'll arrange another day
Be there with bells on Matt! Hopefully can drag nuggy away from Coconut Island long enough too.
Cool I look forward to it Nick!
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That's an awesome restore ktm450!!
TZ is my favourite pinball, so it is great to see another one brought back to life #*#
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Found a couple of photos in my phone, so they are a little blurry.
First is the posts before polishing, you can just make out the amount of surface corrosion on them
Second is after polishing on buff at work, they are not perfect but a hell of a lot better and look brand new in the game.
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Good work. Do you apply any polishes when buffing?
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I used a 300?? !@# (brown) grit compound on a soft wheel, then finished with autosol
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Fantastic job KTM.
Looks like when you southerners come up for a meet at Tony's you will be hauling that baby along for the ride *)*
Come-on , its only 1000km trip for the TZ !!
Congrats again.
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Fantastic job KTM.
Looks like when you southerners come up for a meet at Tony's you will be hauling that baby along for the ride *)*
Come-on , its only 1000km trip for the TZ !!
Congrats again.
Thanks Wotto, great idea but unfortunately I don't think so mate, that is unless you want to come down and pick me up in your ute <.>
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Bit of an update....
I designed and installed my own door flasher mod as previously discussed here: http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?topic=720.0 (http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?topic=720.0)
I also wanted to get rid of the tatty old bit of cardboard under the mini PF after Dave gave me a tip he has used a few times, Dave has used a thin piece of MDF painted black to tidy the area up.
I didn't have any thin timber lying around but did have some 1.5mm shatter proof polycarbinate (LEXAN) and thought it would be an interesting effect being clear, as it adds a little light to the dark area under the mini PF.
I was very pleased with the result, although it is hardly noticeable standing infront of the machine, but that is a good thing as you dont want to be drawn to the area. Looks shitloads better then the old cardboard!
Here are a few pics:
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Bally%20Twilight%20Zone%20Restoration/zRIMG0471.jpg)
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Bally%20Twilight%20Zone%20Restoration/zRIMG0479.jpg)
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Bally%20Twilight%20Zone%20Restoration/zRIMG0480.jpg)
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Bally%20Twilight%20Zone%20Restoration/zRIMG0503.jpg)
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Now she looks complete.........Funny how most restores of TZ will include everything but the change/upgrade of the shitty piece of protector cardboard. As KTM stated, I use MDF coated with a gloss black, but the clear looks very impressive too.
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Now she looks complete.........Funny how most restores of TZ will include everything but the change/upgrade of the shitty piece of protector cardboard. As KTM stated, I use MDF coated with a gloss black, but the clear looks very impressive too.
Yeah thanks for the tip mate, I didn't even consider it before I put it all back together. Too keen to get it going I guess, as I didn't even play a game before I started stripping it down.
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Neat solution there Matt, thanks for sharing.
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Ditto - Nice job, Matt.
There just so much you can do to a TZ #*#
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Wow Ktm Great Job on the tz its amazing what you can achieve with some hard work and patience
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Thanks guys ^^^
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f**kin top notch mate
very inspiring
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Thanks bwodie ^^^
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Great to see how this ended up!
A top job!
Cheers
Jacob
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Great to see how this ended up!
A top job!
Cheers
Jacob
Thanks for your tips on polishing out the corrosion on the metal bits mate ^^^
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Jeez Matt, you keep showing me these neat ideas and you're taking up so much of my time trying to copy it. How about we cut out the middle man and you give me your TZ and I'll give you mine. Its nearly moded to your specs.
This latest mod is definitely in the pipeworks for me, thanks for the tip (again)
BTW is that CNC routered or something or a really fine job at free handing?
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I love seeing stuff like this, it looks great and I am sure it works well.
Some people complain about things not being 'original' ....BUT not ALL the original ideas were good - improvements like this need to be made in some cases and shared.
Great stuff Matt.
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Thanks guys,
Rob, it is just done freehand, roughed out with tin snips or scissors then smoothed out by hand file then finished with 1200 grit wet and dry.
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Great job, thanks for sharing all the info. I'm interested in doing a TZ restoration myself. What do you (or anyone else) think would be a reasonable price to pay for an un-restored but working TZ machine. Also are there any things about a machine that would make it worth avoiding for a restoration job?
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Great job, thanks for sharing all the info. I'm interested in doing a TZ restoration myself. What do you (or anyone else) think would be a reasonable price to pay for an un-restored but working TZ machine. Also are there any things about a machine that would make it worth avoiding for a restoration job?
Hi Pajo !
How about a quick intro thread ?
http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?board=2.0
Also - might be worth starting up another thread with your questions - they might not be read in this thread.
^^^
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Great job, thanks for sharing all the info. I'm interested in doing a TZ restoration myself. What do you (or anyone else) think would be a reasonable price to pay for an un-restored but working TZ machine. Also are there any things about a machine that would make it worth avoiding for a restoration job?
There are heaps of parts on a TZ so I would not recommend it for your first restoration project, but if you are willing to have a go there are plenty of people around here willing to help you out with any info you need.
You may find a project TZ for around $3000. Although I have seen them getting a little more expensive lately anywhere from $3500-$4000
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Very impressive.
TZ was my first strip down and restore job, so I know what's involved. You've done a fantastic job.
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Thanks James ^^^
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Good effort, pf was in good condition from the start.
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Thanks mate, the PF is far from perfect, but was still in good condition and I picked up the game for a very good price.
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Great work..makes it satisfying to play after all the effort
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KTM, just for interest, (and i know the machine is NOT for sale) but, just say for example that u did decide to sell it, what figure would u put on that beautiful TZ.
cash 6500 or 7000 or 7500. !@#
It would be good to see what other members feel a fully restored Twilight is worth that has had the full professional stripdown and say new cabinet art added.
I feel 6500 to 7500 would be on the money. KTM, what do u think ? !@#
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Hey Cavey
i have a fully restored TZ with no playfield wear, the cabinet is in excellent condition with 2 very minor marks on it & no fade. It has to be one the best tz I have seen. If I was to sell it I would want close to $7000 for it. (BTW its not for for sale).
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KTM, just for interest, (and i know the machine is NOT for sale) but, just say for example that u did decide to sell it, what figure would u put on that beautiful TZ.
cash 6500 or 7000 or 7500. !@#
It would be good to see what other members feel a fully restored Twilight is worth that has had the full professional stripdown and say new cabinet art added.
I feel 6500 to 7500 would be on the money. KTM, what do u think ? !@#
Never really thought about it because I have no intrest in selling it.
The cab lets it down alot, a fair bit of fading and the usual scratches and touch ups, I havent worried about any of my cabs at the moment as they are all in a row and you cant see the side artwork anyway, I will prob do them one day when I get around to it.
So I would prob value the game at around $5000 restored, although they are getting a little harder to find. Even though WMS made 15000 of them collectors seem to be holding on to good examples of them and they don't seem to be coming up on the market as often and sellers are asking big $$$ for them