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Aussie Pinball Forums => Restorations => Topic started by: Pintoxicated on September 11, 2011, 06:27:31 PM
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So starts another cleanup.....
You may recall the Sinbad machine that was recently on eBay? Well, I got it home today.
I gave it a very quick clean here and there to see what I am going to be up against. I am going to have to replace several very cooked coils as well as some transistors and some drop targets. The MPU has major battery damage which is a real shame, the rest of the board is in really really nice condition. Overall for the $$$$ I am very happy with the machine. I am also going to have to get a lock down bar, plastics set, chimes plungers (at least the chimes are there) and the normal other bits and pieces like rubbers, lane guides, globes etc etc.
The pics will probably tell a better story. The playfield is going to come up nice with only one insert that has dropped enough to be a problem. There are a few spots here and there where the artwork has flaked off with a bit of a rub - to be expected I spose considering the thing has sat for over 10 years with no playfield glass and no love and attention.
(http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr153/Talby671/Sinbad/IMG_4307.jpg)
(http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr153/Talby671/Sinbad/IMG_4326.jpg)
(http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr153/Talby671/Sinbad/IMG_4321.jpg)
(http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr153/Talby671/Sinbad/IMG_4331.jpg)
(http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr153/Talby671/Sinbad/IMG_4317.jpg)
(http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr153/Talby671/Sinbad/IMG_4347.jpg)
(http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr153/Talby671/Sinbad/IMG_4319.jpg)
(http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr153/Talby671/Sinbad/IMG_4337.jpg)
(http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr153/Talby671/Sinbad/IMG_4349.jpg)
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Looks like that playfield is going to clean up really well Mitch.
BG is great too, except for that one area, unfortunately.
What did you snag this for again?
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Never mind .. I found the Ebay listing ..
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Yeah the backglass was too good to be true. I will give it a light clean and seal it though so it isn't going to get any worse. Still good colour in it though.
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Looks like it will clean up very nicely Blair , lucky to have some mylar on the playfield that's been protecting it.
The corrosion doesn't look too bad ,i've fixed them with worse.
The badly blown 7417 chip looks nasty though , might have traveled back and killed a spider.
You have a lot of projects on at the moment!
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Fantastic,so glad this looks like a keeper!
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Good Buy for $600
The BG looks reallly good
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Nice. It will come up a treat.
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If anyone knows of any cheap plastics I'd be happy to hear about them. PBR do have repro sets but they are a bit pricey at $93 for 6 plastics.
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If anyone knows of any cheap plastics I'd be happy to hear about them. PBR do have repro sets but they are a bit pricey at $93 for 6 plastics.
What do you need mate, I have a few Sinbad plasics I can give you.
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Thanks Nino. Every single plastic is damaged in one way or another. Happy to buy whatever you can spare off you. I'd also be interested in a lock down bar if you know of any spares floating around somewhere.
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OK - I'll have a look at what I have and let you know. I can't help with a lock down bar - sorry !
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Always a bit of a risk buying of ebay expecially with that amount of dirt sitting on the PF, but it looks like it will clean up nicely, well done *%*
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Looks like a ripper for the money well done ^^^
Peter
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Yeah Peter, for the money I can't complain. It isn't minty but it is in above average condition and looks like it will be a keeper to sit alongside Hulk.
Thanks very much Nino. I will probably make up a list of bit and pieces I need for the machine and grab some stuff off PBR so I can always get one from there if needs be.
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What a great score Sinbad was one of many games i use to play it looks like it will clean up nice #*# Howzat
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Time for a bit of an update on Sinbad. It turned out to be a bit more work than I was banking on and it isn't finished by any stretch of the imagination. Heaps more cleaning to do, I have just done the basics to see if the machine was going to get up and running and how it plays. I have one drop targets bank I can't get to reset and the four star rollovers are all dead at the moment as well. In saying that though, there is definitely life in the machine and this is how it sits after three pretty solid days working on it so far. Just waiting on a few small bits and pieces from RTBB such as the last few lane guides, siamese posts and the like and the playfield will be done besides a coat of carnuba wax and tinker with some dodgey globe holders.
One thing that I can't sort out though is that the Ni Wumpf board I have that I was going to use in it won't boot up in the Sinbad, put it in Hulk and it works fine. I have tried interchanging power supply and driver boards and it didn't make any difference. New BR's, replaced most fuses, solid and correct power coming out of the power supply board/s and still a mystery as to why it won't work in Sinbad.
(http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr153/Talby671/Sinbad/IMG_4467.jpg)
(http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr153/Talby671/Sinbad/IMG_4469.jpg)
(http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr153/Talby671/Sinbad/IMG_4470.jpg)
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i love the old school comic book style illustrations on that machine. if you had that sitting in a shop it would attract allot of people admiring the art i recon
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Looking great ^^^ .. Sorry can't help with the board not booting mystery .. where did you end up finding a lockdown bar ?
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Looking like a keeper - game play is excellent so once its going I suspect it will be staying......
Can't help with the Ni Wumph, only ever used Pascal's boards where originals weren't worth repairing.
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Looking great ^^^ .. Sorry can't help with the board not booting mystery .. where did you end up finding a lockdown bar ?
Ended up doing a fairly decent order through PBR, the lock down bar was about $25 or $26 after the 10% discount. Probably couldn't buy a 2nd hand one for that here. It just doesn't have the beer seal which I have a bit laying around to put on it.
Even with a few things not working I am enjoying the machine when I have the odd game here and there. I just finished re-globing the machine (all of them not just the dead ones) which has made the rules pretty easy to understand now I can see what is going on and what is lit. Even the Bride likes the machine so it won't be going anywhere for a fair while.
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looks nice blair.it would still be sitting in my queue.well done ^.^
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That has scrubbed up a treat, Blair - well done !
Send an email off to Ace regarding your issue with bootup. I've only ever used this board once and I can't recall the procedure to change the game, but Ace was VERY helpful with post sales support.
I have a feeling that the issues you are experiencing are because the game is using the Hulk code instead of Sinbad. Get the game booting as Sinbad before troubleshooting.
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Thanks Nino. I have been in touch with Ace and at the moment he is at a loss as well. I can't even get the board to boot up at all in the Sinbad machine whereas it booted up with jumpers set at Sinbad in the Hulk machine. I might just have to keep an eye out for another System 1 CPU or see if Ken can salvage the board that came with the machine. I will mention it to Ace though and cross fingers.
That has scrubbed up a treat, Blair - well done !
Send an email off to Ace regarding your issue with bootup. I've only ever used this board once and I can't recall the procedure to change the game, but Ace was VERY helpful with post sales support.
I have a feeling that the issues you are experiencing are because the game is using the Hulk code instead of Sinbad. Get the game booting as Sinbad before troubleshooting.
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She scrubbed up well, nice work *%*
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Check your connectors especially the inter board connect ( try this loom on Hulk also)... look for any evidence that would suggest someone has removed then reconnected at least 2 wires...if its not a board problem.. it has to be a loom problem.. could be as simple as earth connect is in the wrong position
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Cheers Gav, I will have good look and check the wiring against the manual. Probably every chance things may not have gone back where they should have at some stage.
Check your connectors especially the inter board connect ( try this loom on Hulk also)... look for any evidence that would suggest someone has removed then reconnected at least 2 wires...if its not a board problem.. it has to be a loom problem.. could be as simple as earth connect is in the wrong position
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WOW she cleaned up allright didnt she
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It's cleaned up beautifully Blair , well above average and i'm sure your happy with the way it turned out.
Keep at it and i'm sure you'll figure out why the Ni Wumpf won't boot in it but an original board will...it's got to be something simple you'd think.
Check none of the switches are stuck on on the rollovers , or another switch on the machine that scores the same amount of points. if a switch is stuck closed on a system 1 none of the others will work.
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Thanks Ken. I have noticed that when one switch is stuck on a few others go out with it. I will go over the machine again and check all of the switches. I found one tonight that looked fine but the thicker arm that sits much lower than the contact leaf was actually constantly touching and killing a heap of switches. I adjusted that and they came good. Cross fingers it is something similar with the other rollovers that aren't working.
The machine is by no means mint but it has come up pretty nice considering it sat for at least 8 years with no glass on it collecting dirt and dust. I put a few coats of carnuba wax on it tonight which deepened the colours on the playfield a bit. I will put some more coats on tomorrow.
Received my order from RTBB today installed the remaining lane guides and siamese posts. The new parts on the playfield add a bit of bling and take your attention off the imperfections on the playfield here and there. I will add a few more pics later on.
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Ended up doing a fairly decent order through PBR, the lock down bar was about $25 or $26 after the 10% discount. Probably couldn't buy a 2nd hand one for that here. It just doesn't have the beer seal which I have a bit laying around to put on it.
Handy to know .. I didn't realise PBR sold lock down bars , but then again haven't need one as yet
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You were spot on AGAIN Ken. There was a leaf blade touching towards the base of the switch. Quick adjustment and it is all good and ALL WORKING. Thanks mate.
It's cleaned up beautifully Blair , well above average and i'm sure your happy with the way it turned out.
Keep at it and i'm sure you'll figure out why the Ni Wumpf won't boot in it but an original board will...it's got to be something simple you'd think.
Check none of the switches are stuck on on the rollovers , or another switch on the machine that scores the same amount of points. if a switch is stuck closed on a system 1 none of the others will work.
All the parts have arrived and have been installed apart from a small metal post. Slowly gettiing there. :D I played around with a few LEDs as well. The photo doesn't do some of the colours in the backglass justice.
(http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr153/Talby671/Sinbad/IMG_4490.jpg)
(http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr153/Talby671/Sinbad/IMG_4498.jpg)
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now i'm speewing, ^&^
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now i'm speewing, ^&^
Sorry man. There is an extra $400+ in parts and a solid three days or more gone into it so far and there is still plenty to do, I have barely touched the cabinet or coin door yet. Factor in shipping as well which I didn't have to and it wouldn't have worked out that cheap for you. Hope that makes you feel a bit better.
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looking really nice blair ^^^