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well i missed the end of the auction.the new owner payed just over 700.i really do appriciate the input you guys have given!damn shame i cant justify a nib purchase!this machine is looks way better than my whitewater i have been working on.(thanks to stevecee!)i payed way too much for the ww.way too much.so maybe 700 is a fair value?plus the 200 odd delivery to brissy.200/700= too high % transport!upping the cost would help?!my heart is broken.nevermind!thanks again for the input!you guys rockmerry happy chrissy!craig