It is a interesting point though, if they have a LE out of the box say from Norbets office or the showroom at AMD being played for a while, it's no longer a NIB. I went down in Feb this year when the AC/DC was released and Luke visited a purchased a transformers LE for a discounted price, hopefully they would be honest with the joe blogs that rings up and wants one. As you wouldn't want say a avengers LE that was out of box that had a 100 games that was then packed up again for a NIB purchase unless something was thrown in.