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WMS Winner - Another game to the collection
« on: June 10, 2014, 07:56:38 PM »
It has been a long time since I last played this classic. Here's a bit of history on the title - This was one of a handful of novelty pinballs done by Williams in the early 70's. There was "Winner", "Zodiac", "4 Aces" and "Derby Day". These were slightly different from traditional pinballs as they were widebody, they had a sheet of perspex covering the playfield, they were very much an open field of play, and they had some sort of interesting feature that involved the gameplay.

"Winner" - The game has 6 mechanical horses on the playfield. They run on tracks activated by motors. Quite complicated for the period. The game is so simple, yet it is addictive - The ball is launched from the centre of the playfield - this is where you pick your horse. You then use the flippers to hit the corresponding target with the same number as your chosen horse. Hit the other horses' targets and they advance. Hit yours, and you advance. You can move your horse two steps forward by hitting the far left or far right target, but be careful as you also move one of the other horses. This might not be 100% accurate - but it is what I can remember...

This title is a game I've wanted because Dad operated one of these (and a "4 Aces" - not sure about "Zodiac" or "Derby Day"). What I'm trying to do with my collection is slowly collect he games I remember playing when I was a young child. I have several of these already - Nip It, Fireball, Captain Fantastic, Smart Set, Honey, Sky Jump (originally was Dad's) and Spirit of 76 (Dad's). what I'm still after is Olympic Hockey, Super Score and Rocket Ship

The opportunity to own this title came courtesy of Oscar (Pinball Memories), and we came to an agreement and now I own this title - Which I'd like to publicly thank Oscar for this game. It means a lot to me  ^^^

The plan is simple. Get the game going and enjoy it for a short while. Then I'm going to completely restore it. I'm REALLY excited about this, and I hope to start it within a couple of years  @@^

The game is VERY heavy - and I'll document the process here. The headbox is much larger as most of the relays and steppers are located here. Anyway - Here are the pictures !














The backglass is in excellent shape, and the playfield is also very good ! Anyway, I thought I'd share the pinball happiness and hopefully it will be playable by the time i have my first meet  :D
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Re: WMS Winner - Another game to the collection
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2014, 07:58:42 PM »
I have a Winner. Great machine. If you need a schematic or manual let me know.
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Re: WMS Winner - Another game to the collection
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2014, 08:00:04 PM »
I have a Winner. Great machine. If you need a schematic or manual let me know.

Aha - I thought you had one - and without doing a search, I think you made some custom parts yourself ? I did buy the manual and schematic in anticipation for this game. That's how pumped I am !
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Re: WMS Winner - Another game to the collection
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2014, 08:03:46 PM »
now I'm sure Daniel would love that. Good to have odd games as conversation pieces. Well done Nino.
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Re: WMS Winner - Another game to the collection
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2014, 08:05:19 PM »
Nice score Nino, looks to be in nice condition already  ^^^ ^^^

Looking forward to the restore thread.. in particular i'm keen to see the mechanism that moves the horses under the pf, (i've ALWAYS wanted to see how these work)   *%* *%*

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Re: WMS Winner - Another game to the collection
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2014, 08:06:20 PM »
now I'm sure Daniel would love that. Good to have odd games as conversation pieces. Well done Nino.


Yes - Daniel will love playing this game. I'll leave it in the showroom for people to enjoy, and retell the story (as I always do)..
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Re: WMS Winner - Another game to the collection
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2014, 08:08:31 PM »
Nice score Nino, looks to be in nice condition already  ^^^ ^^^

Looking forward to the restore thread.. in particular i'm keen to see the mechanism that moves the horses under the pf, (i've ALWAYS wanted to see how these work)   *%* *%*

It is in really nice condition. Very happy with the game. I think I will go down the path of a repaint as the front section has been touched up. This will be a keeper, so I want to treat myself to a really nice example. If I can find a nice Derby Day or Zodiac, I would be very happy. But for now, I'm more than happy with this amazing game.
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Re: WMS Winner - Another game to the collection
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2014, 08:17:53 PM »
I did a huge amount of work to my machine - here is what happened to the playfield when I removed all of the plastics and parts:



Needless to say I had to make a new playfield and top for the running horses track.

I actually put up a bit of a repair log page but didn't document the running horses mechanism for some reason??

http://homepin.com/winner.html

I also have all the files if you want to make stencils to repaint the cab.


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Re: WMS Winner - Another game to the collection
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2014, 09:54:14 PM »


Love these unusual pieces, great score mate!
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Re: WMS Winner - Another game to the collection
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2014, 10:47:24 PM »
Yep your right Rob I do love it.   Might have a couple of spare horses tucked away Niño or Mike

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Re: WMS Winner - Another game to the collection
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2014, 11:15:05 PM »
I did a huge amount of work to my machine - here is what happened to the playfield when I removed all of the plastics and parts:



Needless to say I had to make a new playfield and top for the running horses track.

I actually put up a bit of a repair log page but didn't document the running horses mechanism for some reason??

http://homepin.com/winner.html

I also have all the files if you want to make stencils to repaint the cab.




Mike - I just read your write up. The way you manufactured everything (coils, motor etc) certainly lead up to what you are doing now with Thunderbirds - but on a much larger scale !

The game turned out really nice.
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Re: WMS Winner - Another game to the collection
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2014, 06:59:10 PM »
Very cool, well done mate  *%*