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Re: Gottlieb High Hand Restoration
« Reply #30 on: August 28, 2016, 09:55:51 AM »
You should add another relay Nino so the targets reset when they are all knocked down.  &&

I was thinking about that when I had mine but moved it on before I did anything more than strip the playfield
I need more room ! and more $$$

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Re: Gottlieb High Hand Restoration
« Reply #31 on: August 28, 2016, 06:18:57 PM »
You should add another relay Nino so the targets reset when they are all knocked down.  &&

I was thinking about that when I had mine but moved it on before I did anything more than strip the playfield

I want to do that to my Big Shot, any idea how I can find out more so that I can do this?

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Re: Gottlieb High Hand Restoration
« Reply #32 on: September 01, 2016, 03:53:00 PM »
Hi Brettski

Thanks for the Zinc plating procedure.

I don't know where I can get the zinc balls.

I am restoring a 1948 jukebox and it is nickle plated. I may give it a try.

Thanks again.

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Re: Gottlieb High Hand Restoration
« Reply #33 on: September 01, 2016, 04:55:31 PM »
Hi Brettski

Thanks for the Zinc plating procedure.

I don't know where I can get the zinc balls.

I am restoring a 1948 jukebox and it is nickle plated. I may give it a try.

Thanks again.

Gordo...

No worries Gordo!

Try a local electro plater for the zinc, they often have scrap!

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Re: Gottlieb High Hand Restoration
« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2016, 10:24:56 PM »
Huge difference...very pleased with the result.

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Re: Gottlieb High Hand Restoration
« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2016, 10:38:30 AM »
Hey Nino,
Just catching up with your restoration post, enjoying the read, very inspirational.
I'm also looking at doing some PF touch ups and will certainly use some of your techniques.
I might need to scan some of the existing artwork as well, so I was just wondering what type of
scanner your using. I can see it's a HP but I haven't seen one like that before (post #17)?
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Re: Gottlieb High Hand Restoration
« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2016, 06:58:16 PM »
Huge difference...very pleased with the result.

It has a lot more work done, I just lost the hard drive with updates, but recent photos will fill in the gaps. It has come a long way.

Hey Nino,
Just catching up with your restoration post, enjoying the read, very inspirational.
I'm also looking at doing some PF touch ups and will certainly use some of your techniques.
I might need to scan some of the existing artwork as well, so I was just wondering what type of
scanner your using. I can see it's a HP but I haven't seen one like that before (post #17)?
Thanks
TheJudge

Thanks for you kind words. This restoration has taken the longest in my history of restoration work, but it started out as just a simple job that I wanted to continually improve on. The entire playfield will have been repainted - so I'm thinking it will be presented as almost a new playfield. Considering it is a "Holy Grail" - it deserved the full treatment. I appreciate and acknowledge the owner's patience. It has been one hell of a journey, but it will be the best Wedgehead I think I will ever restore.

Scanner is a HP4760. Old technology, and very hard to track down. But it does the job for me perfectly.
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Re: Gottlieb High Hand Restoration
« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2016, 09:30:42 PM »
Hi Nino,

When you are preparing for painting, do you lay down the frisket film first and then use the modelling tape for the edges ?

Regards,
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Re: Gottlieb High Hand Restoration
« Reply #38 on: November 22, 2016, 07:04:07 AM »
Hi Nino,

When you are preparing for painting, do you lay down the frisket film first and then use the modelling tape for the edges ?

Regards,
Dan

Depends on the area. If it is a straight line, I will use wide 18mm tape. If it is slightly curved I will use 10mm. A curve would be 6 mm. I'm using a new Tamiya tape that is 3 mm for steep curves with mixed results.

Frisket is used for areas I cannot use tape. I lay down the frisket and then using a scalpel, cut out the pattern I want to paint.

First choice is always tape, as it never bleeds. Frisket can be tricky using an airbrush as it can raise during painting.
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Re: Gottlieb High Hand Restoration
« Reply #39 on: December 24, 2016, 08:25:39 AM »
I just picked up a High Hand and it looks to be in a similar condition that yours was.
Therefore, I'll be going back over the thread again now that it's more relevant to me :)

Quick question on the air brush paint.
I have tried using the createx opaque range but find that I have to do a lot of coats to get good coverage and I get a noticeable edge after I remove the mask.
Also the colour doesn't really cover darken areas that well. Do you put down a white base first or is it that the paint I'm using doesn't provide a solid enough colour?
I'm new to air brushing so sorry if it's a basic question @.@

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Re: Gottlieb High Hand Restoration
« Reply #40 on: December 24, 2016, 06:49:02 PM »
I just picked up a High Hand and it looks to be in a similar condition that yours was.
Therefore, I'll be going back over the thread again now that it's more relevant to me :)

Quick question on the air brush paint.
I have tried using the createx opaque range but find that I have to do a lot of coats to get good coverage and I get a noticeable edge after I remove the mask.
Also the colour doesn't really cover darken areas that well. Do you put down a white base first or is it that the paint I'm using doesn't provide a solid enough colour?
I'm new to air brushing so sorry if it's a basic question @.@


"Noticeable edge" means you are using too much paint.You should only use enough paint to give that area the colour you want. If you HAVE to use a lot of paint, then I would change to a better paint supplier. I use Jo Sonja's range, and they are not the "top shelf", but they do the job and are easy to work with.

For any given area, I have one "mist" coat, then a max of three, even and consistent coats. Doing that "extra coat" for playfield work is not necessary at all, and will creat the edge you speak of. Also, NEVER go with a heavy coat. Always go with thin coats.
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Re: Gottlieb High Hand Restoration
« Reply #41 on: December 25, 2016, 01:30:40 PM »
Thanks for that Nino,
As Spotlight have sales on tomorrow I might go get some Jo Sonyas and try them.
Thanks

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Re: Gottlieb High Hand Restoration
« Reply #42 on: December 25, 2016, 02:58:00 PM »
Thanks for that Nino,
As Spotlight have sales on tomorrow I might go get some Jo Sonyas and try them.
Thanks

Make sure you buy the large white and black as starters. Also buy flow medium to thin the paint 50/50 with your airbrush. Practice as much as you can. I remember when I started out (Tim and Gav taught me from their experience), it took a lot of mucking around.

As for this restoration - There's a "gap" from where I left off to where I am now (pictures lost on hard disk), so I'm progressing slowly, but the hard work had paid off.
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Re: Gottlieb High Hand Restoration
« Reply #43 on: December 25, 2016, 10:22:46 PM »
Looking awesome can't wait to see how the Clubs turn out when you are finished

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Re: Gottlieb High Hand Restoration
« Reply #44 on: February 05, 2017, 06:58:12 PM »
The playfield restoration has progressed. I think by the time I'm done, 100% of the playfield will be repainted !

So now I move on to some linework. This is time consuming, but it brings together all the repainted areas.





In the photo below, you can see the finished linework, and the curved line being set up.



Odd jobs around the playfield like insert borders..



This is how detailed the work is - the line separating the yellow has to be perfect.



Moving on to white areas !







More line work and then the Cards - which will be a massive challenge for me !

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