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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #45 on: December 03, 2008, 10:40:46 PM »
Glad you liked that one Nino, but I reckon I'm gonna pay for it big time. Remember I need more fuses!!!

Better to replace a Fuse than a coil or a driver board.... *%*
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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #46 on: December 03, 2008, 10:58:52 PM »
Sorry to hear of the incident. Mine are SB as I bought it from a trusted pinball parts supplier and I know he wouldn't supply me crap.

Although if he recommended a hair dresser, that's a different story. That one's for you Greg LOL


bugger off "God"  I paid  nearly 10.00 for that hair cut   %.%
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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #47 on: December 03, 2008, 11:24:02 PM »
Sorry to hear of the incident. Mine are SB as I bought it from a trusted pinball parts supplier and I know he wouldn't supply me crap.

Although if he recommended a hair dresser, that's a different story. That one's for you Greg LOL


bugger off "God"  I paid  nearly 10.00 for that hair cut   %.%

Take it back for a warranty claim...

Was it done by a professionally trained "hair technician" ??
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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #48 on: December 04, 2008, 12:22:33 AM »
Sorry to hear of the incident. Mine are SB as I bought it from a trusted pinball parts supplier and I know he wouldn't supply me crap.

Although if he recommended a hair dresser, that's a different story. That one's for you Greg LOL


bugger off "God"  I paid  nearly 10.00 for that hair cut   %.%


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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #49 on: December 04, 2008, 04:04:46 PM »
ok guys now let up on Greg, you know he's sensitive about the hair, and beside the point, he might start having a go about my tips!!!

BTW I think he said it was done by a trained tech, I think his name was Owen but I can't remember the salon's name. He showed me the curling wand used....I dunno but it looked more like a soldering iron to me, but then I'm no hairdresser. Go figure!!!
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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #50 on: December 04, 2008, 04:18:47 PM »
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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #51 on: December 04, 2008, 07:35:20 PM »
Back to the flipper issue...I pulled mine apart (T2) for you tonite and took a couple more happy snaps.  The spring I was talking about initially are not installed on mine either (are on D.E LAH)..so that is most likely not your issue.

The funny thing is in the process of pulling mine apart and back together, I re-created your problem.  THe flipper was quite stiff to move (by hand) and not flowing freely.  I suspect if this is the case your coil is getting very hot cause of the load and blowing fuse (assuming your wiring is correct).  IF the fuse is blowing whilst your holding the flipper in then I'm off track.

Anyway, I don't know how or what caused mine to bind up, however after putting in back in again (3rd time) everything was fine.  I would suggest the following before we go on:
(1) take coil stop off (both hex nuts) and check you have coil sleeve in the correct way.
(2) when putting coil in, make sure the locating lug (not sure of its correct name) is seated in firm in its recess.  I put mine in on an angle, so lug when in first, then placed coil stop on rear of coil 1st, then made sure it was square and flush before screwing in.  Before you tighten it up, just keep checking the movement by hand as you go in, to make sure its all square..
This worked fine for me and flipper movement is very free.
See attached photos....In case I am off track anyone please correct me!

The one thing I did notice when it was binding up (look at middle photo), there was a bit of an angle between coil stop and back of coil (ie not sitting flat).

« Last Edit: December 04, 2008, 07:37:41 PM by MartyJ »

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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #52 on: December 04, 2008, 08:11:25 PM »
are they meant to have a diode

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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #53 on: December 04, 2008, 08:21:21 PM »

The other point worth mentioning - When you tighten the pawl on the flipper shaft, give the shaft a gently tap with a hammer - from underneath. This creates a small gap between the top of the bushing and the bottom of the plastic housing of the flipper..
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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #54 on: December 04, 2008, 09:21:25 PM »
are they meant to have a diode

Yep, these actually have two...They are on the otherside of the lug and glued down as well to stop breakages I guess...


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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #55 on: December 04, 2008, 11:48:39 PM »
Thanks Marty appreciate your effort. I agree with the stop being on an angle causing the flipper to bind. I had this initially. But after insert the large tapered spring that was on my initial flipper setup it helped seat the rod and coil stop nicely and enabled me to easily put in the coil stop screws (these were difficult prior to installing spring)

I've got to be careful here as I only have one fuse left (again) but I think holding the flipper on will cause it to blow. If I flip a fews times, I will see the fuse glow quickly and eventually weaken and blow on a flip. I felt the coil and it seemed warmer than the other but not too hot to touch. I can keep my hand on it for awhile.

The lug is seated good, sleeve is perfect and have put the large spring on the rod re: your last picture, that area. I think my wiring is ok as I connected one by one while old coil still on machine.

What do you think, back to issues with the EOS?
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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #56 on: December 04, 2008, 11:58:25 PM »

Sounds like an EOS problem - especially if the fuse is blowing while holding the flipper button
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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #57 on: December 04, 2008, 11:59:36 PM »
Have you tested the coil??
If its getting warm and blows fuse then its pulling too much current. So long as the EOS is opening at the end of the stroke, this shouldnt be the cause as this disables the higher voltage.

When the flipper is held in up position - the centre wire on the coil is a lower tap and allows you to hold the flipper without pulling higher current ( is the thinner wire on the coil)

Have you got the wires round the right way? And connected to EOS correctly?

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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #58 on: December 05, 2008, 01:41:52 PM »
Will take photos tonight so you can advise whether there is a silly mistake made by me. Thanks
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Re: Flipper blowing fuse
« Reply #59 on: December 08, 2008, 08:04:18 PM »
Sorry for the delay but had problems getting on to this site since Friday.

Here are some pix and hope some ideas come of it. Thanks guys
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