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Disco is not dead, there's a revival on the way
« on: November 01, 2009, 07:17:44 PM »
A few week ago a Stern Disco EM turned up on ebay, Mark.c was the seller, I was the buyer.

Seemed to me to be a cheap, interesting EM project.  Freight was a high percentage of the total cost, but that's the price to pay for living in Australia's premier city.

It arrived at the Sydney depot from where I picked it up. Was on a pallet, well packed in bubble wrap and encased in shrink wrap. A heart skip moment as I removed the plastic wrapping and lifted the head off - the BG had shifted and was half out of the head - luckily nothing broken.

Got it home for a closer look. Play field is in good condition, a bit dirty on the bright yellow bits but will clean up ok I think. Just one broken plastic and a few loose inserts. Apron is really nice. BG has a few scrapes and flakes and has been coated, the artwork is questionable, but it was the 70's.  Cabinet ok, just the usual scrapes and bumps. No legs as advertised. Internally a fair layer of dirt and grime. Counter shows 47,369 games from 36,578 coins.

Set it up and before applying power I went through to check every fuse, appears the previous owner had a penchant for overly large fuses - all oversized, the most outrageous was 35 Amp! Next I operated all coils by actuating them with my  finger, all moved freely and the contacts mostly appear to operated correctly. All the score reels moved freely. Measured all coil resistance - one burnt out and the chime box has suffered a fairly serious misadventure at some stage.

I don't yet have a schematic or manual, my hope that it might have been inside was in vain, but there was a score motor cam drawing and the labelling inside the pin is really good - every coil labelled, including part no and function. On that note the quality of the construction seems top notch. I've been reading the Marvin guides to EM repair and I reckon it might well be possible to fault find this without a schematic - I'm trying to get it but it might be possibly just by careful observation ...

Applied power and ... dead as a dodo, not a GI lamp, motor noise, relay click, spark, nothing, nada. First thought was a missed fuse somewhere, so got the meter out and checked the transformer - all ok, so gave the score motor a step by hand, reapplied power and it sprang to life. Ran around the playfield touching switches and a reasonable percentage of them work, a bit hard to tell exactly as the burnt coil is for a score unit. The bumpers and slings seem a bit sluggish.

Anyway, just a preliminary look for me, and a few pics.  I'm happy with the purchase and think it will be fun to bring back to life, not sure of it's playability or keepability.  I'll limit myself to one machine in bits at a time, so I'll do no more until I get my Gorgar back together, then I'll add to this thread.

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Re: Disco is not dead, there's a revival on the way
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2009, 07:41:26 PM »

Crazy artwork - but it looks to be in great condition !

I've never seen one of these - so I look forward to your updates.
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Re: Disco is not dead, there's a revival on the way
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2009, 08:50:34 PM »
Well im glad it went to a member i forgot all about the auction and forgot to put a higher bid when i was outbid on the other stuff i was bidding on.  Good luck these old girls are great to work on.    Check out the 101 threads if you get stuck anything else just ask  ^^^

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Re: Disco is not dead, there's a revival on the way
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2009, 09:08:54 PM »
Good on you for taking on that game  ^^^

Yes, the art is a bit hows ya father.  But it's a rare(ish) game, and i doubt there would be many in this country.

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Re: Disco is not dead, there's a revival on the way
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2009, 01:55:23 AM »
Never seen one of those before!

Production looks low at 815, maybe that's why!

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Re: Disco is not dead, there's a revival on the way
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2009, 09:18:39 AM »
Brand new score and instruction cards can be made now.
Thanks for the scans.
The file will be uploaded to my website at the end of the month.
No worry's mate, it will be here NOW! (see attachment)

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Re: Disco is not dead, there's a revival on the way
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2009, 10:15:20 AM »
One word.......Yuck!
Looks in good nick, enjoy the resto.
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Re: Disco is not dead, there's a revival on the way
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2009, 09:49:14 PM »
So, with the mess of xmas out of the way I decided it was time to get on with learning to Disco.

I'd purchased the schematic from PSP - wow, it's over 1.5m long!  Funny the construction of the machine seems really top notch, solid mountings everything clearly labelled and seemingly well thought out, harnesses really well run, mounted and loomed up. The schematic doesn't seem up to the same level, maybe just a reflection of the times, but essentially just a hand drawing / sketch - whilst all the coils and relays have identification numbers on the machine they are not referenced on the schematic.  The number and type of contacts from a relay aren't indicated as they are with GTBs and to cap it off the wire colours don't line up with the drawing.  Apart from these details, it's perfect  %.%

So today I stripped the pf of all plastics and rubbers. The plastics are in good shape, just one minor break which I hope to be able to glue together. A bit of nifti removed a lot of the grime and I'll have a go with magic eraser and alcohol tomorrow on some of the ball swirl.  There was no mylar on this and the pf still looks really bright. I've got new rubbers and have replace globes and cleaned up globe holders. 

I've replaced a burnt out coil, still got to find a screw to fit the new coil to test.  Cleaned all the score reel faces, they look so much brighter now, a big improvement.

So tomorrow finish cleaning the pf and reassemble. Then onto a problem where the ball count unit wont advance after the ball drains. I can manually advance it and it seems to roughly work. I think it's ether a motor contact or the ball drain switch and relay. Anyway a day of studying and playing around today should make it easier.

Some pics of progress. 






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Re: Disco is not dead, there's a revival on the way
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2009, 09:50:54 PM »
a few more

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Re: Disco is not dead, there's a revival on the way
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2009, 08:11:19 AM »
WOW, great images.
You should upload these to the www.ipdb.org and get your name in the records.  *%*

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Re: Disco is not dead, there's a revival on the way
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2009, 09:06:43 AM »
Good looking pin. I haven't seen this one before. Looking forward to seeing the final pics.

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Re: Disco is not dead, there's a revival on the way
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2009, 06:58:41 PM »
Another day of Discoing today.

Lots of studying the schematic and head scratching, sometimes it seems like you are chasing your tail and that puff of smoke is not too far away.  The circuits can be very co dependant, so you need to think through how the ball would play and the order of switches and coils being activated. One of the issues was adjustment to a relay contact set - must have been knocked out of alignment at some stage as almost all contacts were wrong. The picture shows before adjustment, glad I'd purchased a contact adjustment tool from PBR, makes it pretty easy to get right. I was making subtle adjustments of the stationary contact arm and then actuating the pull in plate with my finger. Then some close observation when it is driven by power.

Anyway not quite there yet - I can get the ball count unit to advance properly which was a problem yesterday, but now an issue with the outhole relay - the motor runs to collect bonuses etc, but the ball thrower does not throw. I'm pretty close I think.

So I did a bit of cleaning, some pictures below of before, during and after with magic eraser and alcohol.  It never seems to do much by my eye, but the pictures suggest otherwise.  Also gave the backbox a clean up too. I'm happy with progress, it's looking much brighter.

Hopefully tomorrow I will solve the remaining electrical issues and can wax the pf and reassemble.

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Re: Disco is not dead, there's a revival on the way
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2009, 07:01:15 PM »
a few more pics

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Re: Disco is not dead, there's a revival on the way
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2009, 07:06:27 PM »
Awesome stuff!  Will clean up very well!

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Re: Disco is not dead, there's a revival on the way
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2009, 08:02:36 PM »
Doin well so far.  In the picture of the non correct contacts actually looks like the gap between the coil and the armature isnt far enough apart (I could be wrong) But check that the relay plate is sitting in the grove properly and that the spring still has tension ^^^