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« Reply #855 on: November 13, 2012, 04:21:18 PM »
Interesting that distributors come first

The comment that "some" customers will get their games mid December sound a little smararsey

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« Reply #856 on: November 13, 2012, 08:18:33 PM »
? some is apx half a dozen machines total by the sounds of it..... maybe 1 x demo model per country for example....that would make sense, send say Bumper Action x 1 LE WOZ Emerald City machine to show the interested pinball masses etc...it would help n get people interested who may order one or at least help people who have been waiting so they could see n touch the real deal before they get theirs sent out....

wouldnt be a bad idea me thinks...could have a calming effect.lol
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« Reply #857 on: November 13, 2012, 08:39:10 PM »
Highlighted is " PAY FIRST PLAY FIRST".

Theres your delivery order right there

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« Reply #858 on: November 13, 2012, 08:48:11 PM »
Highlighted is " PAY FIRST PLAY FIRST".

Theres your delivery order right there

Yes. JJP has said that since day one both publicly and privately.

It would leave a sour taste if that were to change this late in the game.

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Re: Wizard Of OZ Pinball
« Reply #859 on: November 13, 2012, 09:54:44 PM »
From Jack Private Forum RE the IAAAPA

We will have 8 games in booth #837
We will do an update on Monday or Tuesday early AM from our booth -
the show opens on Tuesday 11/13 and runs until Friday 11/16.
We have a lot of appointments with International distributors and a
lot of US commercial distributors as well.
The update will include details on what we are doing with the Crystal
Ball and whatever we announce it will be on this group first.
The 8 games from IAAPA are already accounted for as they will ship to
certain distributors with another 8 or so going out after Thanksgiving
including at least a couple of games on location the week of 11/19/12.
We expect to ship a few "customer" games by the middle of December as
well.
Those that have not paid, in full or recently, do so as what I use to
say at PinballSales.com is still true "First to Pay = First to Play"




And I'm guessing that quote applies to the general public and distributors

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« Reply #860 on: November 13, 2012, 10:35:14 PM »
Highlighted is " PAY FIRST PLAY FIRST".

Theres your delivery order right there

Delivery order perhaps. I wonder when a genuine delivery date will be announced  :tumble:

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« Reply #861 on: November 14, 2012, 01:31:42 AM »
The crystal ball is operational....

In actual game play the Crystal Ball will show custom video animation
rendered specifically for the size screen and appropriate reward rule
and reward.
 
So in effect, our game does not have one monitor but two!





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« Reply #862 on: November 14, 2012, 01:59:26 AM »
The crystal ball is operational....

In actual game play the Crystal Ball will show custom video animation
rendered specifically for the size screen and appropriate reward rule
and reward.
 
So in effect, our game does not have one monitor but two!






now that is cool.

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« Reply #863 on: November 14, 2012, 03:07:06 AM »
Highlighted is " PAY FIRST PLAY FIRST".

Theres your delivery order right there

Yes. JJP has said that since day one both publicly and privately.

It would leave a sour taste if that were to change this late in the game.

Respectfully, I will bet my balls this will not happen..we have all been over this before. From a production point of view, it will not happen. Machines will be made in country batches, not who ordered first etc...its all good to say it, but production limitations will not allow it....

example, the first 300 orders came from say a dozen different countries...even if he did it in country batches, he wont do 5 Aust, 6 German, 9 USA, 7 Taiwan etc etc etc...Producing n sending out each n every machine in the exact order that people ordered and paid in, is a complete fallacy...u wait n see. Its just a pipe dream..I cant honestly believe people are that gullable to believe this will happen...how possibly could it....its just a sales ploy which worked well to get people to order early and reserve the machine number they wanted, but delivery will not be the same. Now its a ploy to get the stragglers to fully pay up...

I am open to how anyone at JJP will throw all common sense out the wiondow on a production line with its limitations and possibly do this..its so unrealistic, its just plain silly...Time will prove it, and how are people even going to check/monitor or even know if they got their machine say at build number 500, when they were say the 60th person to order ? cause build numbers have been assigned all over the shop, and the production/birth date on the back of the headbox is hand written, which can be bodged in 5 seconds...why do people believe unrealistic and unachievable or even uncheckable promises....wow....I thought everyone would have joined the dots on this one, it is so obvious...

Happy to be proven wrong....

P.S - crystal ball looks good, but very small, will those 70 yr old white females at casinos Roger Sharpe said was the demographic for WOZ machines at casinos going to be able to see those images with thick coca cola lenses/glasses on but ? lol

seriously, looks good, but a bit small..cant pass judgement til we all see it in the flesh...and YES, that WAS a INNOVATION !
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« Last Edit: November 14, 2012, 03:20:34 AM by Caveoftreasures »
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Re: Wizard Of OZ Pinball
« Reply #864 on: November 14, 2012, 06:51:23 AM »
November 13, 2012

Dear Jersey Jack Pinball Fans,
 
Today is a day that we have worked towards for a very long time.
 
At 10 AM Eastern Time today in the Orange County Convention Center here in Orlando Florida, the IAAPA show opens - (www.iaapa.org)
 
We have a six hundred square foot booth with eight of our Emerald City Limited Edition Wizard of Oz Pinball Machines sitting on top of our custom Yellow Brick Road carpet in Booth #837.
 
We are also showing for the first time what our Crystal Ball does. Here's a video:
 
 
The Crystal Ball - Jersey Jack Pinball
*Be sure to set video quality to 1080 HD*

In actual game play the Crystal Ball will show custom video animation rendered specifically for the size screen and appropriate reward rule and reward.
 
So in effect, our game does not have one monitor but two!
 
We will update pictures on our Jersey Jack Pinball Facebook page all through this week from the show floor in our booth. Expect some other news and announcements to follow.
 
Thanks to all of you for your support!

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« Reply #865 on: November 14, 2012, 07:24:00 AM »
Here is the link, pretty impressive

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Re: Wizard Of OZ Pinball
« Reply #866 on: November 14, 2012, 08:12:34 AM »
Highlighted is " PAY FIRST PLAY FIRST".

Theres your delivery order right there

Yes. JJP has said that since day one both publicly and privately.

It would leave a sour taste if that were to change this late in the game.

Respectfully, I will bet my balls this will not happen..we have all been over this before. From a production point of view, it will not happen. Machines will be made in country batches, not who ordered first etc...its all good to say it, but production limitations will not allow it....

example, the first 300 orders came from say a dozen different countries...even if he did it in country batches, he wont do 5 Aust, 6 German, 9 USA, 7 Taiwan etc etc etc...Producing n sending out each n every machine in the exact order that people ordered and paid in, is a complete fallacy...u wait n see. Its just a pipe dream..I cant honestly believe people are that gullable to believe this will happen...how possibly could it....its just a sales ploy which worked well to get people to order early and reserve the machine number they wanted, but delivery will not be the same. Now its a ploy to get the stragglers to fully pay up...

I am open to how anyone at JJP will throw all common sense out the wiondow on a production line with its limitations and possibly do this..its so unrealistic, its just plain silly...Time will prove it, and how are people even going to check/monitor or even know if they got their machine say at build number 500, when they were say the 60th person to order ? cause build numbers have been assigned all over the shop, and the production/birth date on the back of the headbox is hand written, which can be bodged in 5 seconds...why do people believe unrealistic and unachievable or even uncheckable promises....wow....I thought everyone would have joined the dots on this one, it is so obvious...

Happy to be proven wrong....

P.S - crystal ball looks good, but very small, will those 70 yr old white females at casinos Roger Sharpe said was the demographic for WOZ machines at casinos going to be able to see those images with thick coca cola lenses/glasses on but ? lol

seriously, looks good, but a bit small..cant pass judgement til we all see it in the flesh...and YES, that WAS a INNOVATION !
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Not sure Brett, it's a pretty bouquet set up . Jack is not running the 50/60 hz set up as Stern is and I think all pin's will meet ROHS.
So maybe Jack has got it down pat to a very simply system ?
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« Reply #867 on: November 14, 2012, 09:06:15 AM »
From a distributor point of view its very straight forward... this one paid first.. heres your 50 or so machines. Then you paid up so heres your 75 machines etc etc.
Overseas sales sitting in containers at the docks will be considered as contract fulfilled. They may take a month to get to the destination and meantime a US distributor with less travel may well take reciept of his games beforehand. But as far as machines out the door on first pay first play basis i see it as a very simple excercise

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« Reply #868 on: November 14, 2012, 11:09:40 AM »
but the machines were not paid for that way...individuals paid directly to JJP.... and its the individuals who are expecting games to be delivered in first to order, first to get a machine apparently...so that scenairio wont work Gav...

also, even if u look at say a whole dealers orders, he might have ordered a machine in the first week, then not a machine for 3 months, so even that whole scenairio wont happen either, cause the whole promise seems flawed....

Personally, since I canned my WOZ order until a later production date, it doesnt worry me at all, but if I was one of the people sitting, sweating on delivery, who ordered say in the first week, who expects to be served in order...I would be asking JJP how they are going to fulfil this promise from a production point of view specificaly, wanting decent details not just a generalised restated promise..cause I simply dont believe it, or see how it is realistic from a production angle... but realistically, I wouldnt even bother asking since I know its just crazy to expect them to do that....

well done to JJP for promising it, but lets see a common sense answer from JJP as to why they would even try to send out machines in specific orders etc/or even how they will realistically do this on a production line which would be absolutely inefficient....
« Last Edit: November 14, 2012, 11:22:41 AM by Caveoftreasures »
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Re: Wizard Of OZ Pinball
« Reply #869 on: November 14, 2012, 11:43:43 AM »
Jack just posted that WOZ won the Brass Ring Award at IAAPA for the Best New Product!
Nice work Jack