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Recommended Clearcoat
« on: February 23, 2013, 12:01:30 AM »
Hi all,
I would like to know what you recommend clearcoat?
I have pasted the new decals on the playfield,
clearcoat which did not destroy?

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Peter

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Re: Recommended Clearcoat
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2013, 03:53:10 AM »
to which the  layer of paint stick new decals??

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Re: Recommended Clearcoat
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2013, 09:31:48 AM »
I'm no expert, but I believe that you can clear and the playfield, then place the decals, and then continue with a couple more layers of clear.

The decals have to be non-laminated.

I'm sure others with experience will advise.
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Re: Recommended Clearcoat
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2013, 09:09:04 AM »
I'm doing restoration for the first time, so has a lot of questions :)

Thank you


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Re: Recommended Clearcoat
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2013, 09:23:16 PM »
I'm doing restoration for the first time, so has a lot of questions :)

Thank you


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Hi Fly,

Preparation is the key for this one.  If you have decals, its best for the NON LAMINATED ones.  On occasions the laminated ones will react with 2pac (2k) clear.  I don't know why, but it seems a bit hit and miss from different manufacturers (of the decals).

Make sure the inserts are nice and level.  Also make sure the old screened artwork & clear on the inserts are gone.

I've done this method in the past with 2k clear and has worked well.

Are you in Poland?  Just make sure if using 2k clear to wear all the correct safety gear as its really bad for you.  Depending on the time of year over there, if its winter I'd suggest spraying in a booth with the manufacturers suggested spraying temp.  I've seen some other clears shot in other areas of Europe during winter and they didn't turn out well.

Best of luck.

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Odp: Recommended Clearcoat
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2013, 03:44:08 AM »
Thank you very much for your reply.

So in Poland is now cold, I gave playfield for car painter and will be painted in the spray booth, we did tests with the paint and it worked out pretty well.

I do not quite understand what it means to "its best for the NON LAMINATED ones"

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Re: Re: Re: Odp: Recommended Clearcoat
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2013, 09:54:31 AM »
Thank you very much for your reply.

So in Poland is now cold, I gave playfield for car painter and will be painted in the spray booth, we did tests with the paint and it worked out pretty well.

I do not quite understand what it means to "its best for the NON LAMINATED ones"

Some of the sticker inserts get a clear of some sorts in them when made. They have a shiny appearance. The non laminated ones will have a flat dull appearance.

Your car painter should be fine in theory is no different to a car. When spaying over the sticker first coat should be a very light almost dry,  then following coating can be thicker.

Good luck.

Would love to hear about the Polish pinball scene in another thread!!

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Re: Re: Re: Odp: Recommended Clearcoat
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2013, 10:36:16 AM »
Now we all understand, thank you MartyJ, very much helped me.






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Re: Re: Re: Odp: Recommended Clearcoat
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2013, 10:59:32 AM »
Thank you very much for your reply.

So in Poland is now cold, I gave playfield for car painter and will be painted in the spray booth, we did tests with the paint and it worked out pretty well.

I do not quite understand what it means to "its best for the NON LAMINATED ones"

Some of the sticker inserts get a clear of some sorts in them when made. They have a shiny appearance. The non laminated ones will have a flat dull appearance.

Your car painter should be fine in theory is no different to a car. When spaying over the sticker first coat should be a very light almost dry,  then following coating can be thicker.

Good luck.

Would love to hear about the Polish pinball scene in another thread!!


Mmmm... unless matte laminate has been used

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Re: Re: Recommended Clearcoat
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2013, 12:25:32 PM »
Not sure Gav, certainly the ones I used which were matt had no dramas with.

Given many decals have white ink there is only a couple of people who do them. Not sure if Europe has their own manufacturer

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Re: Recommended Clearcoat
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2013, 06:15:18 AM »
Tragedy, my painter is an amateur, badly prepared surfaces and in some places not covered paint, made a small hole. I'm devastated. He wants to have a paper in 2000 and abrade the paint again.

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Re: Recommended Clearcoat
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2013, 08:46:25 AM »
Sounds like a " fish eye" in the clear.. more than likely caused by grease.

You need to get the grease /silica out by using methylated spirits or some other degreaser and sand the inside slightly. You can then spot fill the hole.. allow to dry, give the whole PF a light sand and coat again... should be good after that

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Re: Recommended Clearcoat
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2013, 07:24:31 PM »
Today I will take from him he'll have to do it. I do not want him to do anything else with my machines.

Thanks for your help

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Re: Recommended Clearcoat
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2013, 07:38:57 PM »
Today I will take from him he'll have to do it. I do not want him to do anything else with my machines.

Thanks for your help

What is the game Fly?

I've had problems with games without mylar (where lots of wax has been used) with similar results.  Although it looks bad, it can be rubbed back and redone without to much issues.

Locally here in Australia & the USA there is a product called Presol http://pc.dupont.com/dpc/en/US/html/visitor/common/pdfs/b/product/dr/ChromaSystemLV/H-19397_3919S.pdf

As long as no residue is left, this is an excellent product.  Your spray painter should have it.

If the playfield is NOT already cleared (ie pre 1990 game) I find a very light first coat (dry) followed by normal coats eliminates the chances of this occurring.

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Re: Recommended Clearcoat
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2013, 09:47:42 PM »
this is Revenge From Mars