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DE Starwars.....Gremlins are Back
« on: April 07, 2013, 09:00:09 PM »
Hi guys,

Tonight I swapped a broken plastic over on the playfield which involved un-soldering and re-soldering a flasher globe holder. The game was fine before hand but afterwards I noticed that in test this flasher didn't work. I then turned the machine off and made sure that I hadn't soldered the wires back on the wrong way. I hadn't, but when I turned the machine back on the none of the flashers worked and in test mode the light flasher test fired the coils instead.   !@#  Also Tried a game and the coil which kicks/loads the ball  ready to fire up the out lane does nothing.

 I'm hoping its just a fuse and ill test them tomorrow but the coils firing during the light flasher test is a bit weird I think. Anyone seen this or similar before?
 
I've had this game a little over a year and I'll never get rid of it for sentimental reasons, it was my favourite game back when it was new and sited at my local arcade but its had its share of odd issues from time to time.

 

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Re: DE Starwars.....Gremlins are Back
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2013, 09:07:56 PM »
Hehe, good old passion fingers.

The globe holder isnt or hasnt shorted out on another metal object?
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Re: DE Starwars.....Gremlins are Back
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2013, 09:08:21 PM »
I assume you are referring to the 89 flashers ?

It they are the two flashers near the playfield runner - where the playfield slides in and out - you may find the tab on the 89 socket holder has shorted to ground on the runner. VERY easy to do. Just check the tabs on the globe holders CANNOT touch the runner when the playfield is lowered.

Yes - you would have blown a fuse. You may have blown two if the relay is not switching between the flashers and the coils.
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Re: DE Starwars.....Gremlins are Back
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2013, 09:39:28 PM »
I thought you'd have a laugh when you saw this Blair. As you know there's never a problem with this machine unless you touch it or look at it for that matter. No but really, it's been excellent for the last 6 months so it was due.

The globe holder is the 89 under the exploding x wing plastic. I'm not sure what I may have shorted it out on though. I'll check and change the fuses tomorrow and see what happens.



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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2013, 09:55:53 PM »
Is there anything that it could have touched or be touching underneath the playfield?

I think you should edit your last post to "there's never a problem unless I touch it.". ;-)
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Re: DE Starwars.....Gremlins are Back
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2013, 10:05:20 PM »
Is there anything that it could have touched or be touching underneath the playfield?

I think you should edit your last post to "there's never a problem unless I touch it.". ;-)

Good point! I do have the knack  !@)

The solder could be touching a post. I'm not sure but that's about all it could be I think. I'll check tomorrow.

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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2013, 07:49:39 AM »
Is there anything that it could have touched or be touching underneath the playfield?

I think you should edit your last post to "there's never a problem unless I touch it.". ;-)

Good point! I do have the knack  !@)

The solder could be touching a post. I'm not sure but that's about all it could be I think. I'll check tomorrow.

Let me know how you go.  I will be away next weekend with work.  If you need a hand with it just give me a yell.
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Re: DE Starwars.....Gremlins are Back
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2013, 08:00:58 AM »
Is there anything that it could have touched or be touching underneath the playfield?

I think you should edit your last post to "there's never a problem unless I touch it.". ;-)

Good point! I do have the knack  !@)

The solder could be touching a post. I'm not sure but that's about all it could be I think. I'll check tomorrow.

Let me know how you go.  I will be away next weekend with work.  If you need a hand with it just give me a yell.

No worries, as always thanks for the offer.  ^^^

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Re: DE Starwars.....Gremlins are Back
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2013, 10:01:53 PM »
Hehe, good old passion fingers.

The globe holder isnt or hasnt shorted out on another metal object?

Yep, holder was touching a post.

I assume you are referring to the 89 flashers ?

It they are the two flashers near the playfield runner - where the playfield slides in and out - you may find the tab on the 89 socket holder has shorted to ground on the runner. VERY easy to do. Just check the tabs on the globe holders CANNOT touch the runner when the playfield is lowered.

Yes - you would have blown a fuse. You may have blown two if the relay is not switching between the flashers and the coils.

You were spot on Nino, two fuses blown. 5a and a 8a. Can't find a spare 8a so it's off to Jaycar tomorrow.

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Re: DE Starwars.....Gremlins are Back
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2013, 08:07:08 AM »
Good stuff.  At least it was an easy fix.
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Re: DE Starwars.....Gremlins are Back
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2013, 10:44:11 AM »
Good stuff.  At least it was an easy fix.

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Re: DE Starwars.....Gremlins are Back
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2013, 05:13:24 PM »
Jaycar are getting some 8a fuses in. In the meantime I have 7.5a and 10a at home, are either suitable short term?

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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2013, 05:16:09 PM »
7.5a would be ok, dont over fuse though, i.e. Dont use the 10a fuse.  Do you want me to see if i have some 8a?
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Re: DE Starwars.....Gremlins are Back
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2013, 05:25:09 PM »
7.5a would be ok, dont over fuse though, i.e. Dont use the 10a fuse.  Do you want me to see if i have some 8a?

Thanks, ill try the 7.5a. It'll only be a few days before the 8a come in so thanks for the offer but I'm in no rush, I just want to make sure the problems solved.