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globes can it be so?
« on: July 13, 2015, 08:07:39 PM »
On my space invaders I am finding I always have a controlled light out. My 60k globe was blown, replaced it and a day or two later an invader light is dead. I seem to believe that it seems to blow a globe and then function fine. Is this simply coincidence. I did replace most if not all globe holders with new on this machine
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Re: globes can it be so?
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2015, 10:13:10 PM »
When you rewired in the new sockets, did you file the area you soldered the return wire ? Very common problem, and it will cause intermittent lamp issues.
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Re: globes can it be so?
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2015, 10:35:49 PM »
When you rewired in the new sockets, did you file the area you soldered the return wire ? Very common problem, and it will cause intermittent lamp issues.
didn't file but I understand what you mean. I scraped the top coating to ensure the solder took.
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Re: globes can it be so?
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2015, 10:39:50 PM »
When you rewired in the new sockets, did you file the area you soldered the return wire ? Very common problem, and it will cause intermittent lamp issues.
didn't file but I understand what you mean. I scraped the top coating to ensure the solder took.

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Re: globes can it be so?
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2015, 10:55:50 PM »
Lighting can be an absolute pain sometimes. I always seem to be chasing an issue with a globe here or there. All has been good with Fathom until the other day I had a light come on and it won't go off.  ^.^

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Re: globes can it be so?
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2015, 11:07:30 PM »
Lighting can be an absolute pain sometimes. I always seem to be chasing an issue with a globe here or there. All has been good with Fathom until the other day I had a light come on and it won't go off.  ^.^
as long as its not a flasher. My embryon has some good burn marks in the centre of the playfield. Unfortunately it happened before I got it otherwise I would have shut it down until it was fixed
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Re: globes can it be so?
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2015, 11:21:34 PM »
Lighting can be an absolute pain sometimes. I always seem to be chasing an issue with a globe here or there. All has been good with Fathom until the other day I had a light come on and it won't go off.  ^.^
as long as its not a flasher. My embryon has some good burn marks in the centre of the playfield. Unfortunately it happened before I got it otherwise I would have shut it down until it was fixed

No not a flasher. It's not doing any damage, it's just annoying and I haven't had time to do much about it other than try a different globe. This weekend perhaps.

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Re: globes can it be so?
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2015, 05:51:11 PM »
Is it a controlled globe under the playfield?

If so I would start by resetting and checking the connectors then the Matrix.

Could be a bad Diode or other issue.

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Re: globes can it be so?
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2015, 07:36:34 PM »
Is it a controlled globe under the playfield?

If so I would start by resetting and checking the connectors then the Matrix.

Could be a bad Diode or other issue.

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Thanks, apart from checking the holder for damage and stray bits of solder I haven't had time to do anything about it yet. I'll try reseating first and I have another board I can try in it as well.

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Re: globes can it be so?
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2015, 01:10:42 PM »
Still have globe problems. #5 controlled lamp was dead again and replaced the thyrister again. Then noticed a globe burnt out on the target special insert, so replaced it.

Is this coincidental again or maybe power issues? Looking at maybe replacing the power rectifier pcb.
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Re: globes can it be so?
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2015, 08:50:29 PM »
Quick update, the controlled lamp #5 has gone out again. I am suspecting the thyrister is gone again. any ideas guys?
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Re: globes can it be so?
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2015, 08:18:12 AM »
Bad bunch of globes???

Try swapping a globe from another location into the #5 controlled lamp spot rather than install a new one.


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Re: globes can it be so?
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2015, 07:01:30 PM »
Bad bunch of globes???

Try swapping a globe from another location into the #5 controlled lamp spot rather than install a new one.


don't think globe as tested good just now. I think Q4 or something like that on the lamp driver is blown again.

If so what's doing it? Any ideas of what to look for, shorts, power rectifier etc etc?
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