Wizard Of OZ Pinball

[GORGAR 1]

 

Don't forget that pinball was dying in the late 80's early 90's and had a resurgence once DMD pins arrived. Maybe LCD can do similar..... Of course we don't have arcades any longer so public sites are going to have to be pubs, cafes etc.

HA HA WOZ in a pub yeah right I don't think so! That's a home use only machine in Australia

Peter

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[Caveoftreasures]

I am in the camp that believes the theme is a really good theme. I say WOZ is a winner.

I then say who cares if people dont like the theme. Each to their own. This WOZ theme is like the AC/DC threads, some people just keep bagging things to death, and again it becomes embarrassing after a while. I say if u like a machine, say u like it once or say u like it 20 times, but it serves no purpose for anyone to say they dont like a machine 20 times, time after time.

This forum shld be a place where u can say u are buying a machine and then get some feedback, and hopefully positive feedback from others. But when threads have the same people bagging things to death, it becomes tired so very quickly.

and pinball isnt dead at all, STERN selling seven or eight thousand brand new machines per annum is great. Its apx 7000 more than zero.

another point, pinball2000 was innovation, but not all innovation sticks, lets see where JJP is in a few years.
Still some great exciting times ahead for pinball. Its just getting better n better every year. Its a growing industry whilst every other industry is in decline. Food for thought. 

[Cow Corner]

WOZ looks good but is the gayest theme in pinball history by a mile imo. Hobbit does little for me as well and I hear that Alice in Wonderland might be on the blocks. Remember that line from " Full Metal Jacket", only 2 things come from texas......
JJP better start bringing better themes to the table and releasing more games a hell of a lot quicker, otherwise people will drop him and his pins quick smart.

[GORGAR 1]

WOZ looks good but is the gayest theme in pinball history by a mile imo. Hobbit does little for me as well and I hear that Alice in Wonderland might be on the blocks. Remember that line from " Full Metal Jacket", only 2 things come from texas......
JJP better start bringing better themes to the table and releasing more games a hell of a lot quicker, otherwise people will drop him and his pins quick smart.

Well said..

Peter

[Caveoftreasures]

WOW  WOW  WOW

WOW have u guys seen this page with more short videos of the Wizard of OZ machine.

This is going to be one very SPECIAL machine for sure. The features are AMAZING. Anyone who buys this title I reckon will think its going to be a very loved keeper for many years. To those who dont like the title, it wont matter cause you wont be playing it.lol
I think this will be worth the wait. Unboxing it will be a very special day for those who had ordered.

Check out this link

http://www.pinballnews.com/games/wizardofoz/index28.html

[Replay]

you can tell us all about it when you get yours, been a long wait for others that have comitted too

[Caveoftreasures]

you can tell us all about it when you get yours, been a long wait for others that have comitted too

didnt order one back way ago cause i didnt have enough info back then, but if it looks n plays like i believe it will, i might get one money permitting.

i will prob keep some pins, but not all.  that look like a keeper but, great colours etc 

[Retropin]

Looks bloody awesome to me... LOVE Dorothy's house!

[Wotto]

I say if u like a machine, say u like it once or say u like it 20 times, but it serves no purpose for anyone to say they dont like a machine 20 times, time after time.

I dont get that statement at all......
How can one person be ‘allowed’ to say their thoughts 20 times but another cant just because it’s the complete opposite opinion.
Why in this life if someone doesn’t agree with people OR if they have a different opinion are they seen as NEGATIVE , a point that REALLY annoys me – its NOT NEGATIVE , it is ANOTHER OPINION.

NEGATIVE is a word that is too easily bandied about these days in order to try and shut people down so they feel bad for not ‘towing the line’


And no I dont like the game

I DO like the fact that someone is having a go at producing a game – but the theme , the audio , the AWFUL Toto multiball animation and other aspects just don’t do it for me with this TITLE.
Some aspects of the game are nice ( the LED’s for example ) – but this is FAR FAR from the MIND BLOWING NEW PINBALL MACHINE that people are getting ‘sold’ on.

[Caveoftreasures]

I will answer your question Wotto by saying this.

Heres an example I will use as a reference.

A member buys a brand new pinball machine, spends his hard earnt $6500 or $9500 etc. The member is proud of his new purchase, proud he worked his arse out to buy it. He takes photos, places some posts on the forum and is excited with his new purchase. Most members say nice things about the machine, and as members learn more n more about the machine, or see more videos etc, they politely say they like it alot etc etc. Over a 2 or 10 day discussion, certain members might say different nice things about the game, because they like different parts of the game etc etc etc, and you ofcourse, as the proud new owner, likes the feedback that the members give you, as any new proud owner would.

THEN you have 1 or 2 members who rubbish your game so to speak, call it various names, tell u that u only bought it cause u were pressured into it by others, and basically they just rubbish the game badly. Then after that, 3 or 4 members say they like it, but then the same member bags the shit out of your game again and again and again. I am sure you would get sick of that soon after and feel that is negative and unwanted negative feedback, because you have already heard that from the same person over and over again.

So thats why i say or believe it is nice to get positive feedback once or more, but it serves no purpose to hear someone repeatedly bag your new game. It would become/may become inappropriate after a while I would think.

The way to put this into perspective, is to think about a machine you just bought and how you would feel if the same person/persons repeatedly bagged it over n over again. Once u hear the opinion, there no need to hear the not so nice one over and over again.

That way, people who do spend their hard earnt $$ on a new title, dont have to have their proud moment of unveiling on the forum bagged to death etc. It was something i felt would keep this place fun and show some politeness to other members. Thats all. 

[oldskool1969]

I will answer your question Wotto by saying this.

Heres an example I will use as a reference.

A member buys a brand new pinball machine, spends his hard earnt $6500 or $9500 etc. The member is proud of his new purchase, proud he worked his arse out to buy it. He takes photos, places some posts on the forum and is excited with his new purchase. Most members say nice things about the machine, and as members learn more n more about the machine, or see more videos etc, they politely say they like it alot etc etc. Over a 2 or 10 day discussion, certain members might say different nice things about the game, because they like different parts of the game etc etc etc, and you ofcourse, as the proud new owner, likes the feedback that the members give you, as any new proud owner would.

THEN you have 1 or 2 members who rubbish your game so to speak, call it various names, tell u that u only bought it cause u were pressured into it by others, and basically they just rubbish the game badly. Then after that, 3 or 4 members say they like it, but then the same member bags the shit out of your game again and again and again. I am sure you would get sick of that soon after and feel that is negative and unwanted negative feedback, because you have already heard that from the same person over and over again.

So thats why i say or believe it is nice to get positive feedback once or more, but it serves no purpose to hear someone repeatedly bag your new game. It would become/may become inappropriate after a while I would think.

The way to put this into perspective, is to think about a machine you just bought and how you would feel if the same person/persons repeatedly bagged it over n over again. Once u hear the opinion, there no need to hear the not so nice one over and over again.

That way, people who do spend their hard earnt $$ on a new title, dont have to have their proud moment of unveiling on the forum bagged to death etc. It was something i felt would keep this place fun and show some politeness to other members. Thats all. 

+1
negativity breeds negativity , have a bit of respect to others.
I have been told I have boat anchors  for pins I take this light hearted, but to me , they are friggin awesome and bring something different to the table.
Wether other people like it or not, the chance on something different is cool. i.e.; if we were all the same it would be pretty bloody boring! wouldn't you agree?

[Caveoftreasures]

and hopefully as both STERN and JJP make new and more exciting titles, the reviews will just keep getting better.

I for one reckon we have some great times ahead for pinball and new releases.

All pinny players will hopefully win with the competition.

[Retropin]

I dont remember anyone bagging the shit out of ACDC.. not in the way its being described here. I have and will continue to bag STERN... its only now that they have picked up their game so to speak.
There was deserved criticism of the quality control for this title... seems thats all been sorted now, but really should never have been in the first place.
Criticism of SM components which take repair away from the owners.

In all honesty, the ACDC thread is ended.. until now that is and its now a discussion on negativity... how does that work??

[coon82]

I really like what you bring to the table Cavey. Well said!
I have purchased a WOZ and don't have any issues saying it either. I think it will be a great game not just because of what I've seen from all the teasers we've been shown along the way, but it would be hard for some of the enthusiasm of someone like Jack with that much passion not to rub off onto his team.
It's a bit like saying 'how can it be done' instead of 'it can't be done'. Psychological barriers cause physical barriers..... I think this pin will be the start of a new era.