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yeh, Skit B refunded monies apparently so kudos to him if correct.


Skit B have not refunded monies and neither have paypal.  Only monies people are getting back are through credit card charge backs.

He has said that he is refunding back but hasn't walked the walk yet

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I don't think people should say too much about John Popadiuk until it all washes out. I'm more concerned that what looks to be a liquidation firm (ex-accountants & investment bankers) are running Pintasia  - there is NO manufacturer at all. Putting out a press release like this is astounding - half of it is a "help wanted" ad. "We're gunna make great pinballs, just need all the manufacturing side & someone to do the programming. And we'll keep the designer from the last failure but don't worry he's not touching any money, we're just paying him".  Far out. Might be some smart cookies in terms of banking & legal but they need some marketing & strategic advice.
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listening to C2C podcast it seems like Pintasia is a guy who is a customer of John's for one of the games (probably MG) and his profession is saving companies from ruin

the dodegy thing is each person has to decide which direction they are going, go with Pintasia but you need to sign a form saying you won't take legal action against John or opt out for Pintasia and take legal action. ???? !@#
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listening to C2C podcast it seems like Pintasia is a guy who is a customer of John's for one of the games (probably MG) and his profession is saving companies from ruin

the dodegy thing is each person has to decide which direction they are going, go with Pintasia but you need to sign a form saying you won't take legal action against John or opt out for Pintasia and take legal action. ???? !@#
both are great options........not! How about option 3 just give back people's money.
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listening to C2C podcast it seems like Pintasia is a guy who is a customer of John's for one of the games (probably MG) and his profession is saving companies from ruin

the dodegy thing is each person has to decide which direction they are going, go with Pintasia but you need to sign a form saying you won't take legal action against John or opt out for Pintasia and take legal action. ???? !@#
both are great options........not! How about option 3 just give back people's money.

totally agree, option 3
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There is no option 3 as the money has been spent.
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There is no option 3 as the money has been spent.

we know, but it would be nice for those that invested and believed....


I still don't know about Pintasia hiring jpop as he could still drag the chain, earn a income etc and who knows when all the games will be released. He is talented but think it leaves a very bad taste...
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sounds like he was crap at project managing when he works on and designs 3 games plus a proto-type kiss pinball, he should of built MG and then move on to the next.

Moving onto game 2 and 3 indicates what his work and personality traits are like.  Once the fun stuff was done for Magic Girl, he lost interest and moved on to a new game.

The hard part for him was sorting out the manufacturing.  So he simply put the manufacturing to the side, and started designing a new game while taking more deposits.

...those who put a deposit on Magic Girl were naive, as at no point was there a manufacturing plan.  Apologies for offending some, but those who put a deposit on RAZA or Alice in Wonder Land, with no evidence of Magic Girl manufacturing being underway, were simply foolish.

As for J Pop - he was hallucinating in wonder land, and still is.

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Far out - Who knew pinball was so complex! Im currently doing my Masters and trying to keep up and understand all this seems beyond me!

If we were into simpler products like a Billiard table, we wouldn't have all this drama. Just goes to show that building a pinball machine is a massive undertaking that utilises a huge spectrum of skills and materials all needing to come together. Should never be left to a small group would be my advice!

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I don't think the small group concept is a big concern, rather I think it is the funding model.

If a small team were to design, play and test a game in their spare time, have a thorough manufacturing strategy plan, a BOM, all quotes in for manufacturing and sourcing of parts and not ask for a cent ready to hit the manufacturing GO button things would be safer for the people ordering games, yes may take a little longer for the team to bring their machine to the public but less risk for everyone including the team members. The team could also then take out a loan to cover the parts / manufacturing for the first 10-20 games so when games are purchased they are delivered quickly and the income earned pays back a good portion of the loan as well as re-invested into the next batch of 10-20 games - similar to how spooky are doing it. This approach keeps the team motivated and driven to finish. I think (speculation) that Jpop got a $1 million and just designed away perfecting the look and function and ran out of funds to build the games but he owes $1 million to his customers and lots of money owed to suppliers etc as it is obvious that he lacks skills in project management, and budgeting.
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Admirable but your post suggests that you can go to the corner store and buy 20 x mechanisms for EVERYTHING in the machine - this is not always the case.


I don't think the small group concept is a big concern, rather I think it is the funding model.

If a small team were to design, play and test a game in their spare time, have a thorough manufacturing strategy plan, a BOM, all quotes in for manufacturing and sourcing of parts and not ask for a cent ready to hit the manufacturing GO button things would be safer for the people ordering games, yes may take a little longer for the team to bring their machine to the public but less risk for everyone including the team members. The team could also then take out a loan to cover the parts / manufacturing for the first 10-20 games so when games are purchased they are delivered quickly and the income earned pays back a good portion of the loan as well as re-invested into the next batch of 10-20 games - similar to how spooky are doing it. This approach keeps the team motivated and driven to finish. I think (speculation) that Jpop got a $1 million and just designed away perfecting the look and function and ran out of funds to build the games but he owes $1 million to his customers and lots of money owed to suppliers etc as it is obvious that he lacks skills in project management, and budgeting.

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Apologies if posted elsewhere but this was the "update" sent to those with deposits lodged with Zidware.

May 21, 2015

RE: PLAN OF ACTION FOR PURCHASERS OF MAGIC GIRL™, RAZA AND AIW

It is with great excitement, determination and love for pinball that has led me to pursue and find a possible solution that can be announced to you today. I want to take this opportunity to thank each and every one of you who believed in the magical designs that have been created. I acknowledge and appreciate the faith you have in placing deposits with Zidware, Inc. (“Zidware”) to deliver to you incredible machines that take pinball to another level. Thank you for your patience and support …this well-deserved update will give you a good idea of where we have been and where we are headed in the future.

First and foremost, my apologies for not being a better businessman. In the past, great success was accomplished by focusing on what I do best… design and artistic direction of games. The business mechanics were left to the executives at companies such as Williams and Bally. I did not realize what it entails to run a company and get a machine designed and produced from start to finish. At the rate that I have been going, bankruptcy would be inevitable absent some type of corrective action. Zidware no longer has the ability to get Magic Girl™ (“MG”) into production let alone Retro Atomic Zombie Adventureland™ (“RAZA”) and Alice in Wonderland The Pinball™ (“AIW”). A copy of current financials will be available evidencing the impossible predicament Zidware currently faces. Further, the delivery of machines to my customers who have placed orders and provided deposits has always been my primary concern and a responsibility that I take very seriously.

Therefore, I have sought out a solution to bring these games into production and to benefit all purchasers who have continued to believe in me. Apologies for the lack of communication, however it was best to find a workable solution first, rather than to string everyone along on false hopes. At this point I have a plan in place and therefore am taking this opportunity to share it with you. My hope is that with this solid plan, you, as a purchaser, will be supportive of this endeavor and remain patient and work with this plan to achieve the desired goal of producing MG, RAZA and AIW machines.

What is the plan and how will it help the purchasers of Zidware products?
In a call for help, one of my customers, a businessman specializing in the restructuring of companies, realized that there was no way Zidware could get this project over the finish line and into production. He was saddened by the fact that many would suffer a loss and it would be a black eye for the pinball industry and my reputation.

Over the last month or so, this individual and his associates have done extensive due diligence on Zidware to determine the best plan of action. They have assembled a team of professionals capable in bringing pinball machines to production under a new, unrelated company. I have granted this new company (“Licensee”) an exclusive license for MG, RAZA and AIW. They will then be able to take MG from its current state to the point of production, along with potential orders for RAZA and AIW. Once these machines are produced, the Licensee plans to continue and grow to become an industry leader in creative unique pinball design.

What can you expect next?

The Licensee is now underway to complete a master prototype Magic Girl™. An announcement will be made as to when this will be, however the goal is to have it ready in time to unveil at an upcoming show. From this point forward, information and progress will be provided by the Licensee as Zidware is no longer in control.

This group is currently in the process of negotiating with proven known quality manufacturers to get the games produced. As soon as this is contracted, purchasers will be notified and given a forecast of the timeline to complete development as well as release dates for final product. As it stands today, the anticipated timeframe until production of MG is approximately 2 years or sooner.

As for the other 2 games, art work will be under the Licensee’s direction and prototypes will be forthcoming. I have agreed to independently consult with the Licensee for continuity to complete the pinball designs for all 3 games. The timeframe until production of AZA and AIW product is 2 to 3 years post MG production.

I encourage fellow Pinheads to allow this team to help make these games come to life. The Licensee has already made significant investment in both time and money to get where we are today. They have acquired the licenses for these games not motivated by profit, but to make the designs a reality and forge a viable path for production of these products to Zidware customers. The only other alternative is that Zidware would be forced to file for bankruptcy, resulting in virtually nothing to the purchasers and none of the games that we have worked on all these years will ever be produced.

We need patience, positive input and support from you and all of Zidware’s customers. Once each purchaser has responded back with positive intentions, the Licensee will be formally announced and be able to continue to move forward. However if there are any clarification uestions regarding this letter or agreement, please do not contact the attorneys directly, instead you may send an email to: Magic Girl Info <magicgirl.raza.aiw@gmail.com>. The Licensee has already indicated that they will be opening the doors to share the progress with customers and welcoming everyone with open arms!

To be clear, there will not be any refunds as Zidware lacks the cash reserves necessary to return any customer deposits. The Licensee is here to create and build pinball machines and it is not responsible for Zidware’s liabilities. Nonetheless, working together, the Licensee will have the ability to produce machines and Zidware customers will be provided credits for deposits made. We are very lucky that the
Licensee started down this path to help the pinball community by trying to rectify this situation.

This is what we need in order for the Licensee to move forward, please take advantage of this opportunity and complete the attached agreement prepared by the attorney for the Licensee. This is what is required from you in the attached agreement in order for the plan to succeed:

1) Confirmation of your intent to complete the purchase of the ordered item(s) by executing and returning the attached agreement so that the Licensee does not expend resources for customers who may not wish to complete their order.

a. Magic Girl™ – original purchasers. The Licensee is already in talks with potential manufacturers to create a Magic Girl™–Collector’s Edition, limited to only 199 worldwide for those who have already purchased or provided deposits. This is first come first serve
as we will close off as soon as we reach 199 orders. Zidware deposits will be converted to credits dollar for dollar.

b. RAZA or AIW purchasers. For those who have placed a deposit on RAZA or AIW, the Licensee is allowing these purchasers to convert their deposits to credits towards:

i. Magic Girl™–Collector’s Edition ($15,995) – Limited to only 199 worldwide, this is first come first serve as we will close off as soon as we reach 199 orders. Zidware deposits will be converted dollar for dollar, 1:1 (eg. $6,500 deposit = $6,500 credits).

ii. Magic Girl™-Classic (TBD estimated at between $9,995 to $11,995) – We are offering a new edition of Magic Girl™ with all of the same functionality and quality, since the final product is yet to be finalized and we don’t have actual BOM, we can only provide the price range. Any customers interested in this option will have opportunity to confirm their purchase at time of release of actual price. Zidware deposits will be converted 1:2 (eg. $6,500 deposit = $3,250 credits) for this option.

Once you take delivery of your machine, you have an asset in hand and the ability to keep it or sell it for cash. You will also have the ability to sell your position. Should you wish to wait for the possible creation of a RAZA or AIW, that option is also available.

2) Agreement that you will not bring any action for money damages or specific performance against Zidware, the Licensee, the manufacturer, or any of their directors, officers or members during the earlier of:

(i) delivery of the product or
(ii) 4 years

This is what we need to move forward; we ask your cooperation to support us and allow Zidware to get the Licensee what is needed at this time. This is the only plan that will possibly get these machines produced. It is time sensitive as we need to move quickly or I will have no choice but to pursue a chapter 7 bankruptcy filing resulting in the liquidation of Zidware without delivery of any of the games and virtually no cash to Zidware customers.

This plan is for you, the Pinheads that want something that is a true work of art, quality built that can be treasured for years to come. I have now found the right business team that is dedicated to try to get my work to the finish line and into production. Help me to help you get what you came to Zidware for…a pinball machine that you will be very proud of to have in your collection!

To Our Success!

Best Personal Regards,
ZIDWARE, INC.
John Popadiuk
President


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what a joke, j pop nearly makes me want to torch my ToM and I didn't pay any deposits. Its like feel sorry for him but wait there's a light at the end of the tunnel......and there is.......a big f@#king train.
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How does the saying go ?

"Never throw good money at bad money" ?
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How does the saying go ?

"Never throw good money at bad money" ?

Vegas is full of people chasing their losses