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Re: KISS the Rollerball nightmare begins..
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2009, 01:43:04 PM »
No worries mate...you going to style my hair for me as well..cool...lol
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Re: KISS the Rollerball nightmare begins..
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2009, 02:47:54 PM »
Question guy's how do you use triple thick paint when the back glass has large bubbles in it like this has?
             In the past with me I have used the mylar method over bubbles and so far works great and you can paint the rear of the mylar where the silk screen is missing. If heat is a issue use LED's.             

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Re: KISS the Rollerball nightmare begins..
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2009, 06:32:44 PM »
I dont think you should remove the metal channel lift as others have already said, could do a lot of damage to the backglass.

i would use triple thick as the triple thick will seep under the flaking and re stick the flakes to the glass when dry.

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Re: KISS the Rollerball nightmare begins..
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2009, 07:00:35 PM »
For some time I have wondered if you could get a 1mm sheet of Perspex cut to the same size as the rear of the backglass.
Would cost about $40.00

Then place the Perspex sheet over the rear of the BG, mark out the score and credit rectangle area’s.
Remove the Perspex, cut out the score/ credit areas
Put Perspex back onto the rear of the BG.

Then ( and this is the unknown part ) use a high quality tape to ‘tape it’ fully around the edges to the glass.
To try and explain this properly I am only talking about using a strip of tape say around 10 or 12 mm in width, that would run down the edge length of the 2 surfaces and then JUST fold around onto the FRONT of the backglass and the REAR of the Perspex, enabling the Perspex to remain in place pressing against the rear of the backglass and holding it all in place. The visible strip of tape at the front of the backglass ( probably about 3-5mm ) would then be hidden in the channels in the backbox when the whole BG is placed back into the machine. NO TAPE would be touching the rear of the original backglass.

However - I have no idea if the Perspex would bow in the middle or be affected by the heat of the globes in any way.

Yet to try this .

Anyone’s thoughts?


Original - I'll give you that !

But I would seal the backglass and prevent further deterioration.

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Re: KISS the Rollerball nightmare begins..
« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2009, 08:05:14 PM »
Damn...Ok Wotto was over today and we chatted for ages about where we should go with this pin...just do the bare minimum get it running and sell it for whatever we can get....or go the whole hog and do a full resto...as the playfield if fully mylared we though just get the crazy rectange piece of mylar around the middle of the playfield off and cleaned up then just do a clean up of sorts...get it working and piss it off...
Well sorry Wotto....
Seems our plan has changed....and fast....
I finished getting the middle section removed and the Mylar just kept lifting...so heaps more came off than I wanted...No way to turm back once that started i guess...so looks like the WHOLE playfield is going to get the mylar removal treatment now...it did come off quite easy...but have lost some small flakes of paint but not too bad really...one spot on the extended hand you can see in the pic...can touch that up with a little black...
Yes the nightmare has started...Thanks for you help/input Wotto...
Im not going to do anymore on the playfield for a bit..maybe strip the playfield on sunday ready to start revoval of the mylar...
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Re: KISS the Rollerball nightmare begins..
« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2009, 08:12:32 PM »
This is a pic of it before ...

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Re: KISS the Rollerball nightmare begins..
« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2009, 09:25:08 PM »
Man- how did that mylar NOT stop at the cut that was already at the bottom of that rectangle?????
I cant imagaine how that would have just kept going  !@# !@# !@#

Seriously - take time and patience with doing that whole PF , you dont want to turn a bargain into a nightmare - be VERY patient.

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Re: KISS the Rollerball nightmare begins..
« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2009, 09:46:29 PM »
Rollerball, I think with the wasp nests and backglass this pin is gunna bring you nothing but trouble.

I will take it off your hands paying you what you paid for it so that your not out of pocket.

Will arrange to pick it up tomorrow. ^&(
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Re: KISS the Rollerball nightmare begins..
« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2009, 09:58:28 PM »
You forgot to mention the problem with the mylar peeling off too much as well. That probably makes it worth not as much as when he started.

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Re: KISS the Rollerball nightmare begins..
« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2009, 12:10:44 AM »

Paul - Send it over to me mate - I'll even pay half the freight costs to Melbourne. It is now an unrepairable disaster.

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Looking Good !

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Re: KISS the Rollerball nightmare begins..
« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2009, 09:36:48 AM »

Paul - Send it over to me mate - I'll even pay half the freight costs to Melbourne. It is now an unrepairable disaster.

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Looking Good !

BTW - Be VERY patient with "contact" removal !

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Re: KISS the Rollerball nightmare begins..
« Reply #26 on: March 07, 2009, 09:54:17 AM »
Ive had some paint loss...just a couple of small bits here and there....looks like this will be a touch thread as well..lol...not happy...still i guess you would need to be VERY lucky to get a whole playfield of mylar off without taking some paint with it...
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Re: KISS the Rollerball nightmare begins..
« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2009, 10:06:28 AM »
looking at those pics, it aint that bad really. Should be a piece of piss to get that PF back up to scratch.

i said it before and i'll say it again..lucky bastard!!  :lol

Seriously though, bloody good score mate. hoping i'll find my own bargain KISS some day, and if i do i hope the backglass and PF are as nice as the ones on you machine #.#

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Re: KISS the Rollerball nightmare begins..
« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2009, 10:12:04 AM »
Removing mylar is dicey at the best of times.

Wow, just noticed the colour registration is a bit off around the 40k/80k/colossal bonus area. The yellow is out of whack. Not sure how common that is.

Good luck with the rest of the removal. Touch ups will be a bitch as it's a very busy piece of art.


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Re: KISS the Rollerball nightmare begins..
« Reply #29 on: March 07, 2009, 12:10:27 PM »
Removing mylar is dicey at the best of times.

Wow, just noticed the colour registration is a bit off around the 40k/80k/colossal bonus area. The yellow is out of whack. Not sure how common that is.

Good luck with the rest of the removal. Touch ups will be a bitch as it's a very busy piece of art.



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