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Offline lenoz

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Re: WILLIAMS FIREPOWER
« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2011, 09:17:38 PM »
Put the multimeter on this and nothing (red pin on left side & black on right side)

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Re: WILLIAMS FIREPOWER
« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2011, 09:25:56 PM »
Keep the black lead on the battery ground and try the red lead on each side of the diode.

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« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2011, 09:36:06 PM »
OK, Ive put a better multimeter on everything & Iam getting 4+ volts on all things now (D17, C5101 & battery pack + connections to CPU board) - now Iam really lost ???

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Re: WILLIAMS FIREPOWER
« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2011, 09:41:55 PM »
With the diode I got 4.47v on one side & 4.23v on the other if thats any help ?

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Re: WILLIAMS FIREPOWER
« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2011, 10:07:12 PM »
Most likely your 5101 chip has died or has some corrosion under the socket. 

Easiest thing to try next is probably to swap out the this chip.

I think Ken (Skybeaux) had some available for sale, if you don't have a spare on hand.
You can PM him here http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?action=profile;u=162

Edit.  Might be worth trying the On/Off trick again now that you have confirmed all battery voltages are present and correct.  Just make sure you have the coin door open when you try it.
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Re: WILLIAMS FIREPOWER
« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2011, 12:28:17 AM »
Steevsee, thankyou so much for your time & help and all the others that have tried to help me troubleshoot this problem, when i get the 5101 chip I will update this post as to how i go, thankyou all.

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Re: WILLIAMS FIREPOWER
« Reply #36 on: March 28, 2011, 11:37:44 PM »
Hi all, have tried changing out the 5150 chip and still no joy (tried 2 of them) - any other ides would be greatly appreciated, thankyou.

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Re: WILLIAMS FIREPOWER
« Reply #37 on: March 28, 2011, 11:48:21 PM »
So with the new 5105 chip, you have cycled power with coin door open? What happens now?

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Re: WILLIAMS FIREPOWER
« Reply #38 on: March 28, 2011, 11:51:37 PM »
Nothing Dave, still just comes back on with test mode 4.

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Re: WILLIAMS FIREPOWER
« Reply #39 on: March 29, 2011, 12:08:47 AM »
Can you get into the input test mode and confirm you have three balls registered?

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Re: WILLIAMS FIREPOWER
« Reply #40 on: March 29, 2011, 12:10:04 AM »
No sure how to do this ?

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Re: WILLIAMS FIREPOWER
« Reply #41 on: March 29, 2011, 12:39:38 AM »
Hi all, have tried changing out the 5150 chip and still no joy (tried 2 of them) - any other ides would be greatly appreciated, thankyou.

The socket itself might be bad.  You can test it with your DMM on continuity/resistance setting.

Follow the traces from each socket pad to a nearby pad on the baord and see if they have continuity.

Edit - Any chance you could post a picture of the socket with no chip inserted ?
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Re: WILLIAMS FIREPOWER
« Reply #42 on: March 29, 2011, 09:17:42 AM »

Glad the chips arrived safely Lenoz.
I tested all of them before i sent them to make sure they were good , so you must have some other problem with the board.
As Steevsee said ,make sure that the 5101's socket is good , if in doubt put in one of the new ones i sent you.
I had a problem with a board once before like this and it was either  IC27 (4071) or IC24 (7400) that was the problem...can't remember exactly as it was a while ago , and i wouldn't say for sure that changing them will fix your problem , yours might be something different.

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Re: WILLIAMS FIREPOWER
« Reply #43 on: March 29, 2011, 10:59:01 AM »
Thanks Skybeaux, any chance you can sell me these chips as I would rather try changing these out first then trying to find someone here kalgoorlie to change socket out (I presume its soldered)

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Re: WILLIAMS FIREPOWER
« Reply #44 on: March 29, 2011, 11:10:15 AM »
Sorry to hear you are still having probs .
My Firepower has recently died with the dreaded audit mode too.
Ken sent me a 5101 not long ago plus a couple of other components .
When I get time I will try sorting mine out and post back here with what fixed it (optimistic aren't I  &&) .
Hopefully you will get yours sorted before then . As you have seen, plenty of help on this forum  ^^^
I need more room ! and more $$$