Stern - X-Men Pinball (mid 2012)

[swinks]

mnpinball said - "It's sounding like X-Men is going to be a big game changer for Stern from the many people I have talked with. GAP has seen it and a few others I know. The LE is going to be extreme ! I am hearing pricing just under AC/DC LE by a few $100's But the big deal is this will be the most "ball interactive" toys on a Stern pin to date ! Borg went all out on this title."

Gap said - "THIS GAME IS GOING TO BE BORGS BEST WORK! Again it comes down to code, but the game has a lot of toys on it, not Kmart toys, total 5 toys that interact with the game. Stern is adding more and more to their games and this one should please the masses. I won't spill the beans but can't wait for Stern to release photos!"

[Cow Corner]

mnpinball said - "It's sounding like X-Men is going to be a big game changer for Stern from the many people I have talked with. GAP has seen it and a few others I know. The LE is going to be extreme ! I am hearing pricing just under AC/DC LE by a few $100's But the big deal is this will be the most "ball interactive" toys on a Stern pin to date ! Borg went all out on this title."

Gap said - "THIS GAME IS GOING TO BE BORGS BEST WORK! Again it comes down to code, but the game has a lot of toys on it, not Kmart toys, total 5 toys that interact with the game. Stern is adding more and more to their games and this one should please the masses. I won't spill the beans but can't wait for Stern to release photos!"

Certainly alot of hype building around this machine....lets hope it lives up to it.

[pinsanity]

Certainly alot of hype building around this machine....lets hope it lives up to it.

Basically the same marketing strategy as every Stern release, use figureheads in the US pinball community to deliberately leak info and build hype.

GAP is a Stern distributor in the US, so on a local level that would be the equivalent of AMD in Sydney stating, "this is going to be Borg's best game ever".

What does pecuniary interest mean?  

As for mnpinball, firstly he is a loyal repeat buyer of NIB Sterns and secondly, well let's just say that isn't it astonishing that mnpinball has been able to repeatedly get inside info for the last half dozen or so titles, and despite Stern's apparent best efforts they have been unable to plug the leak and the flood of info coming out. (I remember when Steve Ritchie went on rgp last year and made a public statement that the mnpinball "leak" had been fired.)

What does plausible deniability mean?  

From now on, I am just going to take every Stern pinball release as it comes (with a grain of salt).  Until such time as I can play it in person, and deem it the best/worst game ever.  

[Cow Corner]

Certainly alot of hype building around this machine....lets hope it lives up to it.

Basically the same marketing strategy as every Stern release, use figureheads in the US pinball community to deliberately leak info and build hype.

GAP is a Stern distributor in the US, so on a local level that would be the equivalent of AMD in Sydney stating, "this is going to be Borg's best game ever".

What does pecuniary interest mean?  

As for mnpinball, firstly he is a loyal repeat buyer of NIB Sterns and secondly, well let's just say that isn't it astonishing that mnpinball has been able to repeatedly get inside info for the last half dozen or so titles, and despite Stern's apparent best efforts they have been unable to plug the leak and the flood of info coming out. (I remember when Steve Ritchie went on rgp last year and made a public statement that the mnpinball "leak" had been fired.)

What does plausible deniability mean?  

From now on, I am just going to take every Stern pinball release as it comes (with a grain of salt).  Until such time as I can play it in person, and deem it the best/worst game ever.  

Thats some good info there, thanks.
I certainly wont be buying one sight unseen and unplayed thats for sure!!

[pinsanity]

Thats some good info there, thanks.
I certainly wont be buying one sight unseen and unplayed thats for sure!!

CC,

I don't want to derail this thread with negativity, but if you are intending to buy a LE full featured model, I don't know whether you will be able to take that approach anymore given Stern's LE marketing strategy.

What I am seeing is a dramatic shift from buying a NIB Stern pinball machine for the intent of enjoying a NIB game experience, to buying a game for the sole purpose of profiteering. That is, snapping up as many LE's models as your budget allows, holding for a month or two in the box (before any major details of the next Stern pin come out) and then flipping for a tidy (few thousand) profit without doing a damn thing to it.

With the money you make on that model, this then goes into funding the next LE model purchase that will come out in a few months time and the cycle repeats itself. Since the hype life cycle is so short for a new Stern LE machine (a few months at most), the "speculator" as I call them, has to offload fairly quickly in order to maximise their return.

Now this is a free market and buyers are allowed to pay whatever they think something is worth, but I do lay part of the blame for allowing this to occur at Stern's doorstep.

Flip:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/190682583433?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

for

profit:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/150824241554?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

[Cow Corner]

Thats some good info there, thanks.
I certainly wont be buying one sight unseen and unplayed thats for sure!!

CC,

I don't want to derail this thread with negativity, but if you are intending to buy a LE full featured model, I don't know whether you will be able to take that approach anymore given Stern's LE marketing strategy.

What I am seeing is a dramatic shift from buying a NIB Stern pinball machine for the intent of enjoying a NIB game experience, to buying a game for the sole purpose of profiteering. That is, snapping up as many LE's models as your budget allows, holding for a month or two in the box (before any major details of the next Stern pin come out) and then flipping for a tidy (few thousand) profit without doing a damn thing to it.

With the money you make on that model, this then goes into funding the next LE model purchase that will come out in a few months time and the cycle repeats itself. Since the hype life cycle is so short for a new Stern LE machine (a few months at most), the "speculator" as I call them, has to offload fairly quickly in order to maximise their return.

Now this is a free market and buyers are allowed to pay whatever they think something is worth, but I do lay part of the blame for allowing this to occur at Stern's doorstep.

Flip:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/190682583433?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

for

profit:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/150824241554?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Yeah I have been seeing this trend grow.
Joke if you ask me but if some one is that silly to pay 3k or more extra than what it is worth for a pin I say fill ya boots and go hard.
15k for a acdc LE, that is just mental imo! 15k for any pin is mental imo, I don't care how many they made or how good it is.
I am not really that fazed, if I get one I get one but will prob end up buying a nice b/w as they seem to be better bargains atm as everyone is going stern and jjp silly.

[Crashramp]

Now this is a free market and buyers are allowed to pay whatever they think something is worth, but I do lay part of the blame for allowing this to occur at Stern's doorstep.

Flip:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/190682583433?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

for

profit:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/150824241554?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Jeez, I can't believe they get that sort of Money!

[ktm450]

They haven't sold yet 

[necroscope]

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[Crashramp]

They haven't sold yet 

Well yes, I suppose that's the thing isn't it, stupid Money requires stupid people..... Should be a buyer along any minute now I guess!  

[swinks]

X-men to one side for a moment as this is still a possible Avengers - not likely now but maybe in the near future.

Rumoured that Gomez is the designer for Avengers - fitting really, have you noticed he looks similar to loki who is in Avengers......

[Cow Corner]

X-men to one side for a moment as this is still a possible Avengers - not likely now but maybe in the near future.

Rumoured that Gomez is the designer for Avengers - fitting really, have you noticed he looks similar to loki who is in Avengers......

Yeah he looks a bit like Tom Hiddleston.
Lets hope if Gomez does do it he picks his act up...TF was a major let down.

[Mr Tilt]

X-men to one side for a moment as this is still a possible Avengers - not likely now but maybe in the near future.

Rumoured that Gomez is the designer for Avengers - fitting really, have you noticed he looks similar to loki who is in Avengers......

Yeah he looks a bit like Tom Hiddleston.
Lets hope if Gomez does do it he picks his act up...TF was a major let down.

Who said TF was a letdown?

[Cow Corner]

X-men to one side for a moment as this is still a possible Avengers - not likely now but maybe in the near future.

Rumoured that Gomez is the designer for Avengers - fitting really, have you noticed he looks similar to loki who is in Avengers......

Yeah he looks a bit like Tom Hiddleston.
Lets hope if Gomez does do it he picks his act up...TF was a major let down.

Who said TF was a letdown?

I did in my last post.

[Ant68]

From Pinside
Distributors have played it. By all accounts yes this could very well be Borg's best !
Hearing VERY good things. Design, sights, sounds, everything coming together nicely.
Some of the best interation toys to date.
The last DMD from Stern ? You have that confirmed ?