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Stern Production Numbers
« on: December 20, 2012, 07:20:09 AM »
I am not sure if I have seen this thread elsewhere before or if it was a general comment amongst another discussion. I got the info off Pinside which was interesting and thought a good place to check out is within the DMD review section as that is the most closely related field.

As you know Stern do not release production number so it comes down to estimate numbers based on serial numbers. It is believed that Mr Pinball price guide gives a close estimate within 10 machines.
http://user.xmission.com/~daina/pinlist_info.html

data captured from:
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/do-we-have-any-sales-data-production-number-of-stern-pins

some data from a guy - snyper2099 is

"Here's the Stern numbers I have come up with based on serials, talking with other collectors and entering my own serials over the years... Keep in mind these are NOT official and do NOT include LE or any other such runs.

SPOILER ALERT: 3RD highest selling Stern of all time was actually Monopoly! Huh? Yeah, I don't understand it either.

Newer games are just too early to tell on most titles but so far it looks like there are at least over 500 Tron Pros that were made up to this date.

I know many have said Simpsons outproduced LOTR but I really think many (even employees at Stern) just presume this because there were MANY MORE RUNS of Simpsons than LOTR.

The estimated LOTR runs were 7 total:
1600-2000-500-500-250-150-150 in that order... adds up to 5150

For TSPP the run estimations are as follows (13 RUNS TOTAL):
600-500-200-300-400-600-500-300-300-250-250-50-100 in that order... adds up to 4400

I have arranged these in order of how many games were estimated to have been produced:

5150 LOTR
4400 TSPP
2650 Monopoly
2200 spiderman
1600 POTC
1300 Roller Coaster Tycoon
1200 Sopranos
1000 T3
800 Austin Powers
720 World Poker Tour
700 Family Guy
700 Ripley's
650 Nascar
600 Playboy
500 High Roller Casino
450 Elvis
400 Iron Man
400 Indiana Jones
300 C.S.I.
250 NBA
250 Big Buck Hunter
250 Batman: DK
250 Rolling Stones
200 "24"
160 Wheel of Fortune
50 Shrek"


so with this data and Cavey's hard work on this thread:
http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?topic=9385.60

we should start a production list and keep it updated.
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Re: Stern Production Numbers
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2012, 07:36:52 AM »
Here is the list for 1999 to 2013 inclusive, which I will keep updated with Mr Pinball Price Guide Numbers if / when I get them as they are probably the most accurate

Can those that remember the LE qty's let me know and I will update this post - at least it is a reference, how accurate is only Stern's knowledge


600 x 1999 Harley-Davidson®

2000 Striker Xtreme  
2000 Sharkey's Shootout

2500 x 2001 High Roller Casino  
800 x 2001 Austin Powers™
3850 x 2001 Monopoly™
2001 NFL

1400 x 2002 Playboy®
1300 x 2002 RollerCoaster Tycoon    


5900 x 2003 The Simpsons Pinball Party  
2500 x 2003 Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines
5817 x 2003 The Lord of the Rings
500 x 2003 The Lord of the Rings (Gold Limited Edition)

3500 x 2004 Elvis®
2750 x 2004 Ripley's Believe It or Not!®

500 x 2005-01 Grand Prix
3500 x 2005 The Sopranos®
3500 x 2005 NASCAR®
 
3000 x 2006 World Poker Tour™
6400 x 2006 Pirates of the Caribbean

4600 x 2007 Spider-Man  
500 x 2007 Black Spider-Man™
600 x 2007 Dale Jr.  
2500 x 2007 Family Guy  
1000 x 2007 Wheel Of Fortune
 
3500 x 2008 Batman The Dark Knight
1000 x 2008 CSI  
2500 x 2008 Indiana Jones  
1200 x 2008 Shrek™ Stern

250 x 2009 NBA
1200 x 2009 TV Series 24    

 
250 x 2010-01 Big Buck Hunter Pro
48 x Batman Dark Knight Non Commercial Home Version
1100 x 2010 Iron Man  
2010 Iron Man Classic Non-Commercial Home Version
2010 Avatar  
250 x 2010 Avatar Limited Edition
  
2011 The Rolling Stones  
350 x 2011 The Rolling Stones (Limited Edition)  
2011 Transformers™ (Pro)  
125 x 2011 Transformers™ Autobot Crimson Limited Edition  
125 x 2011 Transformers™ Decepticon Violet Limited Edition  
500 x 2011 Transformers™ Limited Edition ("Combo")
2011 TRON: Legacy  
400 x 2011 TRON: Legacy (Limited Edition)
  
2012 AC/DC (Pro)  
2012 AC/DC (Premium)
300 x 2012 AC/DC Back In Black Limited Edition  
200 x 2012 AC/DC Let There Be Rock Limited Edition
2012 X-Men Pro Stern  
250 x 2012 X-Men Magneto LE    
300 x 2012 X-Men Wolverine LE  
250 x 2012 The Avengers - Hulk LE
250 x 2012 The Avengers - Blue LE

2013 The Avengers - Pro
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Re: Stern Production Numbers
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2012, 07:46:44 AM »
Each Stern has a production number if you pop the playfield and look to your left under the pf to the left of the flipper mech.

eg my Iron Man has No:372

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Re: Stern Production Numbers
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2012, 09:43:01 AM »
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Re: Stern Production Numbers
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2012, 11:23:06 AM »
I have kept serial numbers and machine numbers (example 2442 of 2500 Batman Forever) for all my 40 x dmd machines....I find it interesting to see how many machines were made, and what number along the production line each machine was......

The AC/DC Pro I have, I have also kept the machine number for it as well (cant remember the exact number it is but it was a number over 500 which must mean they planned an initial run of AC/DC Pros of 500 before they started another run of LE or Premium or whatever) etc.....

Some of those numbers on that list look very very low...Shrek should be 500 not 50 for example......the others, who knows, but its a start !

That link Swinsky used above takes u to the end of the thread, try this one which gets u to the start if u need to.

http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?topic=9385.0
« Last Edit: December 20, 2012, 11:25:11 AM by Caveoftreasures »
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Re: Stern Production Numbers
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2012, 11:32:10 AM »
I wouldn't have a clue on what numbers are accurate but no place like the present to start a list and update when a higher number comes along.

Thanks Greg, I will bump those numbers up to the next 100
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Re: Stern Production Numbers
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2012, 12:47:25 PM »
did some research and cross referenced a few batches of numbers to have the numbers bumped up and hopefully being close

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Re: Stern Production Numbers
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2012, 02:24:59 PM »
The view on Pinside is Spiderman (red) total over the years to be 3600

LINK
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Re: Stern Production Numbers
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2013, 06:40:28 PM »
Pretty low numbers less then I expected

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Re: Stern Production Numbers
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2013, 04:51:44 PM »
here is a interesting story by gangsterbulls from pinside in regards to IM production numbers, pretty cool that it sync's in to the production speculation

http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/ims-s-producedpossibilitycurious/page/3

"Hi, I just signed up on Pinside for the sole purpose of responding to this thread. I purchased my Iron Man machine NIB late in the game (March of last year). Upon completing the purchase I was told that I just bought the last Iron Man that Stern produced. I didn't think about it too much until one day when I was on the phone with Stern & I inquired about it. I was told that they would look into it. A week or two later it was confirmed to me that my game was produced on the last day of the production run. I was also told that they had no way of knowing if it was actually the last game that came off the line. Honestly I think they know but just did not want that info released to the public. It should also be noted that they tracked my machine by serial number & not the number on the playfield.

Now with all that being said, my playfield is number 1014. Although I would like to think that there were exactly 1014 Iron Man machines produced & that I have the last one, I would say it is a pretty safe bet that there were less than 1100 made...... and probably less than 1050...... and very possibly less than 1025...... and maybe even exactly 1014.

As an old man who grew up playing EMs & 1st generation SS machines I would like to make a couple other comments about Iron Man:

1) It is my opinion that Iron Man is the best "player's machine" made in the last 30 years. Note that I said "my opinion" !!

2) When you hear people say that Iron Man is "over rated" or that it "feels cheap", what they are really trying to say is ............"I played Iron Man & it kicked my butt; I don't want any part of that machine, it fights back !!!"


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Re: Stern Production Numbers
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2013, 05:07:53 PM »
Unfortunately, playfield numbers arent the best way to track machine build numbers, because u can have playfield number 1014 placed into machine build number 880. I have seen this on alot of newer Sterns. They obviously make more playfields than they do games because they get made in batches and they have to produce an overun for spare playfields.

What I would like to see on this gents Ironman is any other machne numbers under the playfield, espescially under the apron area but on the base of the playfield, as well as on the playfields end face, apron end. These stickers are there 95 percent of the time, u just have to look hard

Either way, it seems Iron man may have reached around the 800 to 1000 ? numbers. Finding the correct numbers on this Ironmans under playfield could be the key.
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Re: Stern Production Numbers
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2013, 03:23:13 PM »
saw this on pinside
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/ironman-and-spiderman-production-numbers/page/2

a good source confirmation on spidey (6000) and IM (1800)




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Re: Stern Production Numbers
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2013, 03:45:45 PM »
I know Borgy also took the last Tron Pro Version 2 that they recently produced.
He mentioned that to me in a email when we were discussing what machines he had at home, and what he enjoyed.
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Re: Stern Production Numbers
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2013, 04:29:44 PM »
Heard from AMD that they only brought about 40 x IM's to Aus

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Re: Stern Production Numbers
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2013, 06:41:44 PM »
1800 is a nice number.

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