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Globe earth braid configuration
« on: December 29, 2012, 09:26:09 PM »
On 70's games and maybe older they have a rope style braid used to connect the earth to all playfield globes etc. is there any game specific drawings on what the factory configuration/pathway for these? Or is it a matter of following the globe sequences?

I have noticed on sme pf's that the braiding is not one continuous line but made up of 3 or so tracks, hence my question on parts drawings etc for this
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Re: Globe earth braid configuration
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2012, 09:34:34 PM »
The braid is normally the live side... the wires are the individual earth triggers for say scoring or number bonus etc

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Re: Globe earth braid configuration
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2012, 09:35:53 PM »
The braid is normally the live side... the wires are the individual earth triggers for say scoring or number bonus etc
Thanks for clearing that up for me
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Re: Globe earth braid configuration
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2012, 09:48:32 PM »

you won't find the pathway on any schematics or drawings that correspond with a layout on the playfield. If you remove the old braid, it is always best to take photos and draw the outline.

When I do playfield swaps, I trace the braid on tracing paper and then superimpose on a new playfield. You can't just "wing" this process. Each machine is different, and I keep a detailed record.
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Re: Globe earth braid configuration
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2013, 04:44:29 PM »
found locally some braid wire http://www.hartleywilliams.com.au/index.php?slug=hw-list-1013 and thought maybe the 18 gauge stuff is the go, but what grams/metre is the standard pinball wire?

anyone know if the above would be ok and how heavy pinball braid is per metre. these guys have 113gm and 454gm
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Re: Globe earth braid configuration
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2013, 05:49:13 PM »
18 gauge is very thin... id be looking more at 14 gauge.

Is that for the silvered copper braid?

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Re: Globe earth braid configuration
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2013, 05:59:30 PM »
18 gauge is very thin... id be looking more at 14 gauge.

Is that for the silvered copper braid?
Yes was thinking of using this for under the playfield or should I just bite the bullet and go to pin restore and wait for the shipping?

I'm pretty sure pinball restore stated theirs as 18 gauge so that's why I considered it. Heres the link
http://www.pinrestore.com/Supplies.html
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Re: Globe earth braid configuration
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2013, 06:55:28 PM »
Aye Pinrestore does sell 18G.

18 Guage is 1.02mm

16 gauge is 1.29mm

14 gauge is 1.62mm.

Its not like theres 10 tonne of current there, but if i was doing it, id be using the 14G.

Any of the above will work mate

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Re: Globe earth braid configuration
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2013, 09:50:30 PM »
Aye Pinrestore does sell 18G.

18 Guage is 1.02mm

16 gauge is 1.29mm

14 gauge is 1.62mm.

Its not like theres 10 tonne of current there, but if i was doing it, id be using the 14G.

Any of the above will work mate
Thanks mate, I gather you mean the stuff the Qld supplier has should do fine
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Re: Globe earth braid configuration
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2013, 10:14:37 PM »
Yes.... he does sell all 3 sizes though... any will work fine.
AC sits on the outside of the conductor and so a bigger surface area is always best.... but we are talking 6V with a combined current for each run at a few amps max which is nothing as far as power rating goes..

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Re: Globe earth braid configuration
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2013, 12:05:42 AM »

you won't find the pathway on any schematics or drawings that correspond with a layout on the playfield. If you remove the old braid, it is always best to take photos and draw the outline.

When I do playfield swaps, I trace the braid on tracing paper and then superimpose on a new playfield. You can't just "wing" this process. Each machine is different, and I keep a detailed record.

Excellent tip! I wouldn't have thought of that, thanks.

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Re: Globe earth braid configuration
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2013, 09:07:43 PM »
Ordered the 16g as I couldn't decide on 18 or 14. Thanks for the advise and hopefully this stuff is suitable for the job
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Re: Globe earth braid configuration
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2013, 11:54:16 PM »
found locally some braid wire http://www.hartleywilliams.com.au/index.php?slug=hw-list-1013 and thought maybe the 18 gauge stuff is the go, but what grams/metre is the standard pinball wire?

anyone know if the above would be ok and how heavy pinball braid is per metre. these guys have 113gm and 454gm

Thanks for the heads up. I have a playfield swap to do soon so might grab some of this from these guys
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Re: Globe earth braid configuration
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2013, 08:38:15 PM »
found locally some braid wire http://www.hartleywilliams.com.au/index.php?slug=hw-list-1013 and thought maybe the 18 gauge stuff is the go, but what grams/metre is the standard pinball wire?

anyone know if the above would be ok and how heavy pinball braid is per metre. these guys have 113gm and 454gm

Thanks for the heads up. I have a playfield swap to do soon so might grab some of this from these guys
got some coming so I'll let you know if its the right stuff so you don't waste your time
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Re: Globe earth braid configuration
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2013, 09:01:17 PM »
found locally some braid wire http://www.hartleywilliams.com.au/index.php?slug=hw-list-1013 and thought maybe the 18 gauge stuff is the go, but what grams/metre is the standard pinball wire?

anyone know if the above would be ok and how heavy pinball braid is per metre. these guys have 113gm and 454gm

Anyone know what length is on these rolls listed on the above mentioned website?