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[GORGAR 1]

Glad your sons OK Brett but that's "warning bells ringing" get rid of them straight away before they hurt someone else if they escape or your kids, as others have said you will never be big enough to fend off these fighting dogs! that's why I bought up this subject in this thread these dogs are bread to fight its just "in built" its a no brainier get rid of them.

Peter

[v8racefan]

Hey mate I don't know much about dogs but if it was me the dogs would go... family first mate.

[RottyGuy]

Yeh i will be monitoring things very very carefully.  The dogs have almost tripled in size over the past 3 weeks/month.

It was exactly the same behaviour I have seen when taking dogs pig hunting, once they latch on, they just wont let go and shake their heads side to side violently. I was completely shocked this afternoon because there were a few adults in the backyard and the dogs still had a big go with no notice or reason whatsoever...

Might contact a staffy dog website/forum and get some advice from a few experts. I am sure some will say that they can be trained properly, and some will say the opposite. Time to make some serious enquiries.

I can put you onto the biggest/best dog forum in the country. Full of experienced breeders, with all the knowledge you need. I do think training of any pup should start from day one. I'd be booking them into puppy pre school ASAP and make a start with the training. The longer you leave it, the harder it is.

For example, the biting and attacking of your ankles the other week should've been stopped right there and then.

I can find out the best trainer in your area too if you need any advice or questions now or in the near future. I wouldn't throw the towel in just yet and get rid of the dogs.

ETA...Have you contacted the breeder you bought the dogs from ? What are their thoughts on the matter ? Their response will tell you a lot about them. If it's a short, don't really care answer, you know their not dedicated to the breed and just out for a buck.

[Strangeways]

Hope the kids are ok 

If it happened to me, I would have taken the dogs to the vet for the "Green Dream". They have attacked once, they will do it again. Get rid if them.

[Cow Corner]

Wow, I just caught up with this.
Hope your son is ok but there is only one thing to do here.
Those dogs MUST be put down immediately, selling them or giving them away is not an option as they could easily rip into someone else.
Once a pet dog bites a human, thats it....put em down.

[Caveoftreasures]

I have got a professional dog trainer coming over tomorrow, he actually has staffys himself. I will seek his advice and go from there. If he says get rid of them i will, if he can convince me I can do something with these pups, and devise a way for my young bloke to have some sort of small involvent until they are fully trained, i might, might consider keeping them, but its a might til the professional twists my ear.

At this stage, he is saying that the dog next door, barking like a lunatic at the fence for 3 days non stop would have stirred the growing puppies up and he wanted to know if my dogs were barking at the fence, or running up and down along the fence / what else was happening just prior to the 2 of them going at my son. (the dog next door was being minded by my neighbours and it has now gone back to where it came from, and it was a viscious bloody thing that never stopped attacking the fence and carrying on etc).

Since it has gone, the pups havent bit the young bloke or been aggressive at all. But i dont 100 percent trust any animal, so any involvement i ever let my son have with these or any dogs ever will be very minor and totally supervised from now on. Spoke to thye breeder, i have seen the pups parents, veasy easy going/placid to the max, and the bloodline history according to the breeder is placid from the parents/granparents etc. She thinks the dog next door at the fence was the cause etc. We dont have dogs anywhere near our property so thats a good situation to have til i sort things out.

anyway, stay tuned for the bill $$ i get from the dog trainer, and the advice i get.

[RottyGuy]

I don't suspose you will say who the breeder/kennel name is and which trainer you have coming out ?

Dog trainers/behaviourist are not expensive at all. Well worth the money IF you find a good one. Hope it goes well for you tomorrow.

[pinball god]

I don like telling people stuff but I think get rid of them by way of giving them to someone with lots of dog experience in biting dogs. These people can either get the dgs to behave or they will make the hard decision. These are not kid family dogs seriously.

[Replay]

if in doubt

[Caveoftreasures]

I don't suspose you will say who the breeder/kennel name is and which trainer you have coming out ?

Dog trainers/behaviourist are not expensive at all. Well worth the money IF you find a good one. Hope it goes well for you tomorrow.

the breeders are a couple on the gold coast who my wife found on facebook. i will get the details from her, i was just the mug who drove over, payed out the money x 2 and kept the kids happy.lol

the dog guy my brother reccommended. have only spoken on the phone so far and i will find out tomorrow if he knows his stuff or not.

[RottyGuy]

How did you go Brett ? Any update with the dogs and opinion/advice from the trainer ??

[Caveoftreasures]

After getting the professionals advice, there are many different things required to socialise the dogs properly.

1. they need to be fed more, and at more frequencies. Less hungry, less nippy.
2. adults to meet n greet dogs when going outside first, calming them down from their excitement and jumping before kids go outside to play.
3. kids to pat n meet n greet dogs before just running off or past dogs without patting/greeting first.
4. dogs to come inside more whilst in the growing stage to calm and socialise them more.
5. no yelling and screaming from kids around dogs, which will keep dogs calm instead of hyping them right up.
5. give dogs some chew toys to chew on.
6. start walking dogs in 2 weeks time and start professional training with collars n leads etc with trainer.
7. 10 other things i have forgotten already.

So at this stage, we will give the professional fellow a good run at it, and if the dogs can be trained to my satisfaction, and his, then i will keep them, but really, i will be keeping the young bloke well away until he gets alot bigger, and the dogs will never be around him EVER without me being right there, and i will muzzle the dogs til training is over, and even after training, i think it might/muzzle will stay a permanent fixture when the young bloke goes in the backyard. That way it will always be 100 percent safe.

I will take things very slowly. I only have the 2 x kids (girl aged 12 and boy aged nearly 3) so everything will be done to accomodate this family safety first.   Even a labrador can bite, so a muzzle around kids is always a safe option during training and after. We will see how things go. Stay tuned.

[Cow Corner]

Wow............
 

[GORGAR 1]

Brett if you have to muzzle a dog to keep your kids safe is it really worth it? I had a dog for 8 years then my young bloke come along when he was 2 the dog bit him next day dog gone and I thought the world of that dog and it was a Australian terrier not a fighting dog just my 2c worth.

Peter

[Retropin]

Brett if you have to muzzle a dog to keep your kids safe is it really worth it? I had a dog for 8 years then my young bloke come along when he was 2 the dog bit him next day dog gone and I thought the world of that dog and it was a Australian terrier not a fighting dog just my 2c worth.

Peter

Border Collie went that afternoon.. no 2nd thoughts about it. Cannot even contemplate gambling a kids well being. Its an absolute no brainer